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Curious if anyone has had issues with a leak from outside the car coming down the A Pillar into the passenger side floor? I have noticed after a car wash or heavy rain there is water staining on the A pillar trim and leaking down to the floor...anyone had this problem? It seems to be coming...

As a 60 owner in a moderately 'colder' climate, I think a 60 is plenty for what you need. I drive 70 miles roundtrip and can do it twice in a day if i needed too. I have also done 500-800 mi road trips, while the charging may be a little slower - unless you are traveling constantly won't add...

I've tried the Kingsgate and Airport touchless - wasn't impressed with the Airport location, but the Kingsgate works well. There is also a touchless in downtown Snoqualmie, much closer and does a good job.

Read the rest of this thread, and all the others on this site, there are piles and piles of passive aggressive banter like that. Why is ar4c the only one that is not able to participate? I also find it ironic that ar4c is being lambasted for calling people an idiot and attacking other members...

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I am right there with you. I am at 172, I have been as low as 168 @ 90%. I lost a few miles in chunks after driving from 90% down to 15-20% or so on a couple of day trips. It consistently works its way back up to 172/173..but 100% is only 191 - 194 :( I have tried all the tricks to regain...

Some of us buy the car BECAUSE the UI can change. I for one think that it is awesome to get a new look-and-feel in an older car, not having to spend thousands of dollars to upgrade just for a newer looking and functioning software revision. Think about how angry people were because of AP was...

I do not have the tech package nor DRL's. I do however have NAV ;)

I have actually seen the opposite happen lately on my S60. If i charge to my normal 90% and then drive down below 10-20% or so, my next charge is a few miles lower. It then seems to come back over a few 90% charges.

+1 I have benefitted from this as well at Centralia a few times.

Let me know if anyone wants a link :)

I noticed this as well, but I thought it was actually malfunctioning. I had my entire pano replaced early on and have had on and off problems, so I just chalked it up to that. Good to know this is on purpose!

I wish I was as lucky as you. I am about 26,000 miles into my 60 and have charged to 90% regularly, super charged maybe 15-20 times, CHadeMo another 10-15 times and my max charge is 187 :(. I was rolling steady at 178/179 mi @ 90% but have lost a few miles a number of times. I am down to...

Just a note to non-tech owners out there. I saw someone posted a few weeks ago that they were quoted 3k for upgrading their non-tech to NAV. I was in the SC last week and asked if this was accurate - and it looks like the price has been cut in half. I had a quote from last year for about 6k...

I had started gaining back mileage and was up to 174/175 @ 90% charge until yesterday. I drove about 120 miles with pretty average Wh/mi (~300) and left the car with about 40 miles. 90% charge last night only went to 168?!?!? What the heck? I lost 7 miles in one day?

I agree…I actually think the $8k is not that bad, considering that parking sensors were $6k - I have textile seats so it might not be a bad upgrade for that much…especially next-Gen considering I didn't pay anything up-front for leather. Even $2500 is the UPGRADE price from the base model...

I have started to gain some of that mileage back. Very much like Kabirakhtar, I have been getting 177-178 and then it has stepped down over the past few months to 175-176 and recently down to 170/171. The latest charges have been up to 173, so I am hoping it is calibrating. One thing I have...

I just had .249 installed on Friday and I lost 5 miles off my 90% charge. It didn't happen right away, but it happened about a day later and a few 90% top-offs.

My 60 has consistently charged to 90% daily, sometimes multiple times a day and this has been ranging in the 175-177 mi range @ 90%. I had my speedo display replaced on Friday and updates software to the latest 6.2. On my first nightly 90% charge, I hit 176 mi and all was good. Last night I...

I bought the adapter and only recently used it. It was nice to have alternatives to Superchargers, it allowed me to travel a shorter route and skip a SC. In the PNW, there is a pretty good density of them. Most of them are Aerovironment out here, its kind of pain in the butt to have to call...

I'm curious if anyone has done this in a 60, or any Model S, and how long it took door-to-door.  It looks to be about 6hr of driving and 1.5-2hr of Supercharging.  Any advice or details of the trip would be great!

What piece of paperwork is the "invoice" exactly? MVPA? Or is this a copy of the paperwork you sign when taking delivery?

This is a pretty cool and seems like the easiest/cheapest way to change the color of your car. How long does the "dip" last? Does it offer any protection to rock chips, etc? Also, how much time and money did this total job cost?

I did not read the whole thread, but has anyone reported their console freezing much more frequently with 6.2? I listen to slacker and at least half the time the whole console freezes up when searching for a new song. I never had this happen pre-6.2.

He said it won't be a car…the Model X is not a car. I am surprised no one thinks it will be the Model X unveiling, possibly with X70 and X100 battery sizes? The only reason I could see them investing any time/money in something other than cars/suv/etc is that they are worried about their...

I agree that the new Range Assurance feature is useless and does nothing for our anxiety (which I don't have anyways) since its just not going to be accurate if its as the crow flies. In the places that the range is impacted the most (mountains, etc..) that is when the crow-fly calculation is...

I think non-tech cars have to have capability in the Google Maps display and don't understand why it would be a hardware limitation for that aspect. For the Navigon to work in the heads-up display, that I believe is because there is no storage/RAM in the center screen for that data to reside...

But the Trip Planner and Range Assurance only work if they know the destination and the route you are trying to take, correct? The current Maps application only gives you distance based on how the crow flies. I am not saying that I expect to get turn-by-turn instructions read to me, the...

I received an email, mass email, that indicated Range assurance and Trip Planning were going to be available to me and my Model S. I am guessing its just a mass email that went to all users, but they knew that I owned a model s and they know my configuration, so I am hoping its a good...

I am 60 non-tech owner and do think we have a chance of getting the trip planning and (hopefully) directions in google maps. The Maps app seems to just be google maps and rendering icons, route lines and listing out directions is what it seems very capable of doing. I do agree that having...

Regarding all the speculation around the updates to Nav and making it available to all models (including Non-Tech and Asia markets?), I thought a big issue with non-Tech cars wanting to upgrade for navigation was the replacement of the center screen because there was no storage available for...

Is the car actually reading 99% using the new "%" instead of miles feature? If so, I have noticed that my car charges to 89% and 79% even though the slider is at 90% and 80% respectively. I think this happens when you are NOT in range mode and have noticed if you are in range mode, it will...

I was added to the list in August 2014, was told I was 520 on the list and got the email and ordered this afternoon. Already have a tracking number and expecting it early next week.

I don't really keep anything in the frunk or use it for storage regularly, but I have found it to be a great place to change diapers on the road.

I will be on the lookout this afternoon in North Bend by the Outlets if you are thinking about taking a drive…camera in hand!

Has anyone had the seats retrofitted as well as the rear cross member? I am seeing a wide range of costs quoted on the forums and want to understand the exact cost for a 42XXX VIN car to have the rear seats retrofitted. Also, is the retro-fit any less safe than the in-factory installation?

Nothing is wrong with your car - that is just how it works. I have non-tech, was told the same thing by the Tesla sales people, but that is not the case of the car without tech package. You have to use the fob buttons to unlock the car. For the first 10,000 cars or so, they built passive...

I do not have tech but did get a bunch of updates. The smart pre-conditioning works, not well - but it works ;) All you have to do is set a home and work. In addition, I got the following updates: - Media Improvements - Charge Port Opening with Fob - Consumption graph updates (Avg is default...

I got the update last night and installed this morning. As ClearwaterBchSteve pointed out, it seems to only show updates that are pertinent to your car. Having no tech package, it seems I only missed out on the Nav related stuff, and AutoPilot of course -- but did get pre-conditioning. I...

Has anyone without the tech package gotten the 6.1 update yet? I know I won't get the AP features because of my build, but curious what features will be updated on non-tech S's. I'd imagine the backup-lines, media-player, battery percentage, calendar enhancements and the chargeport/fob update...

In WA I would go with PEMCO…they have a history of doing the customer right. There is no guaranteed replacement in their auto-policies but I think you could do an Agreed Value. They have a history of treating customers well and only insure the highest quality drivers (no tickets, etc..) which...

I for one wouldn't mind maybe upgrading my Textile seats to the newer version of the original generation seats (or even the sport seats). I enjoy the textile seats, but would think about upgrading them to a "used" leather set if it wasn't too cost-prohibitive.

I would definitely drop the 85 over the tech, given the newest updates to the tech package. I have a 60, pano, SC enabled with no-tech. No AP or ACC at the time, so it was pretty easy to skip. I regret the lack of tech more than I do the limited range. I have never regretted a 60 from a...

It does not apply to the window trim - just the bottom trim on the rear diffuser and the "rakes" on the lower front fascia next to the cornering/parking/fog light assembly.

This was removed after about 10,000 VIN. I was under the assumption when I skipped the tech-package I would have that feature, which is one of the big reasons I skipped it cause that seemed good enough, but learned after delivery (and so did my SvC) that they stopped shipping this months earlier.

Please don't confuse me with someone that actually has a P85D issue, I have an S60 that is one of the cheapest models you can buy, and I have loved every mile of it - so much that I can't wait until I can buy an X, even with the list of issues I have had (master charger failure, creaks, seat...

Don't get me wrong, if I had a P85D on order and fell into that group of having to take old seats while still getting the car delivered in '14 (tax credit, wanting to drive it ASAP!) I would have definitely taken delivery. I just don't think we should be making excuses for the company and need...

You made my point for me, its out of your capabilities to see Tesla do any wrong, so you have nothing you can say that will resonate with any non "fan-boy". But I would still love to hear your explanation about why a supplier that Tesla engaged, went into contract with, marketed 'their'...

No tech package here. $3,750 for a bunch of "cool" things and having lived without in-car nav for my whole life (and considering i know where I am going 99% of the time) I skipped it. With AutoPilot, I would definitely order it though. At the time, the passive entry was the only thing that I...

How is it out of line? It's no secret that Tesla does what ever they can and "rush" as many orders in before the end of the quarter and even the year. You don't think its a consideration by Tesla to try to figure out how to still deliver these thousands of cars even though they don't have all...