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"2 weeks" - Elon, probably

Your car is not "learning" in such a way that it will drive differently than my car. Tesla picks up some data as you drive, sends it to homebase when you're parked over Wi-Fi, pulls the data into their data pipeline, and future software updates make your car "learn". (Tesla can change things...

That right there is what I was wondering about. Sounds like the same hairpin trigger that exists for seatbelt unbuckling. Lame...

I mean they are still "phantom brakings" in the sense that the car perceives some reason to slow itself down that is irrational to the human behind the wheel. I have been experiencing a similar phenomenon on the highway by me where there are traffic light-guarded left and U-turns (but no light...

I've never trusted AP to drive >90mph and I just got VO AP with FSD beta and haven't pushed it past 80 yet so I haven't experienced this. Is it the instant you exceed SPEED_MAX that you get put in AP time-out or does it give you some heads up like the "pay attention" warnings do?

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Oh interesting. I was under the impression that incremental improvements like those (if you can call them that... they're pretty huge changes) were coming to v10 and v11 was introducing the process of "zipping" freeway and city together into a single stack. The "major" version bump would be a...

HE has spoken: Elon: FSD Beta tweets

Woot. Excited for some incremental improvement. I think they're definitely a few months away from v11. I feel like the path planning has to get waayyyyy better before I'd be comfortable with v11 driving me down the interstate at 80mph.

Ah interesting. I wonder if the other people who have had issues enabling FSD but got the update also definitely do not have the ghost module installed in their cars ;)

This guy has the update and it still has the "opt-out" button.

:confused: sorry to hear that...

Weeeiiirrddd. AFAIU, the Tesla Insurance SS thing is only in Texas. OOC, can you use FSD Beta?

I feel like I saw someone else have this issue on some other thread, but I may be wrong. I think a lot of people have had issues with this release immediately after install. Some other people definitely had GPS issues (myself included) that went away. I'd imagine the boot order of the car's...

Haven't seen any confirmation from the TechnoKing himself, but it would keep with the roughly 2w cadence they've kept for the 10.X releases. Betcha it's "mind-blowing" and "superhuman" though!

https://www.notateslaapp.com/news/468/4-ways-to-reboot-your-tesla-including-soft-and-hard-resets

Lol can't tell if you're serious. A buncha people (myself included) got into beta this afternoon without going to a service center. Maybe anyone going to a service center triggers a new wave of updates for everyone? OK who wants to do the ritual SC visit next? Any takers? /s (Congrats on...

My theory was that if they are adding fewer people to the beta at a time than the current size of the pool of people who meet the current bar to get beta, they're picking prioritized on SS. You might stand a good chance getting in at 98 when 10.6 comes out and they add a bunch of people, but I...

If I were in your situation and I wanted the beta, I'd "opt-in" again in the car, go for a short drive and get out to log the drive happened, and then install the update after Safety Score in the app shows your drive logged. I can't explain why I think this, but seems like a "safe" thing to...

After getting FSD beta (and therefore becoming a VO AP user), I've noticed much smoother driving-in-a-forward-direction behavior. Granted I haven't done a ton of driving, and I haven't done a any freeway driving (where radar AP excelled), but nonetheless behavior seems to be better on FSD in...

Yup got beta with the current batch of folks 👍 (SS dropped to 99 after driving to Chapel Hill this morning. Was 100 before that. Was 98 before I reset last Friday pretty consistently since I opted in.)

I did a drive after upgrading the car and it went away after. It was a long drive so not sure if timing was a component, but maybe try that?

Yep I was in that push too! Finally! (And I didn't have to move to VA. *phew*)

Where are you getting these numbers? Is there an SS dataset collected from one of the 3P Tesla apps?

As a data point: reset my SS on Friday, used a reboot (before putting it in park) to clear drives I didn't want to log, got beta a few hours ago. Seems to still work 👍

Just got a push for 2021.36.8.8 as a 99. Did SS last Friday. Was 98 for a few weeks before that.

Just got a push for 2021.36.8.8 as a 99. Did SS last Friday.

Totally agree. My point is that marketing the liability shift to consumers in terms of L3-L5 is still utterly pointless. L4 and L5 are essentially indistinguishable from a consumer's point of view, and the supposed liability shift in L3 is somewhat dubious. (What's to stop a manufacturer from...

Yep. Dunno about you but I'm always getting into accidents when I drive through new intersections. Whoopsee! /s You mean like the current Traffic Light and Stop Sign Control system which "recognizes" tons of extra stop lines all over the place? Trust me it recognizes stop signs that used to be...

Lol yeah agreed, I'm thinking short-term here.

Yeah but this is precisely why the SAE levels suck. The SAE defined this nice ranking system that isn't a ranking system and automakers are free to construct an ODD such that they can race to L3 or L4 or whatever (this is completely ignoring the pageantry that is "certification"). That's how you...

+1 I'd thought they'd continue after the holiday, but seems like a no there. Either they decided to just wait to pull people onto 10.6 when that released or somebody forgot to press "unpause". (Or they've decided the beta program is big enough. Please don't let that be the case...)

It's almost like you need an odd number of nodes (>1) to have consensus in highly available systems or something... TBH though for "L2" systems where a human can take over, non-agreement just means AP could freak out (like it already does all too frequently) and let the human break the tie...

You can try a SS reset, but YMMV. I'm trying this (linked to what I did below). The guy from DragTimes did this with his Plaid (also linked below) and had no trouble getting into the beta despite having a score of like 5 (lol) before doing the reset. I (and I think a lot of other people) feel...

If it is, they seem to have paused it over the Thanksgiving holiday. I've been religiously watching Teslascope, and it seems like the amount of pending + installing + waiting for wifi + installed has been pretty fixed since Wednesday night. If I had to guess, they aren't "blessing" new FSD beta...

I'm wondering if, when FSD beta becomes FSD beta (but actually GA instead of invite-only), Tesla tries to continue this butt-covering technique. I'm personally totally OK with this being a condition of the limited, invite-only-where-CNN-can-have-it-but-JonNRb-cannot extravaganza, but I'm not so...

Erm, I think he means "would Tesla even 'upgrade' you from 2021.40.X --> 2021.36.X if you would be accepted into the beta?" I'm wondering the same thing too... Tesla seems to be working off the 2021.36 "branch" of their software bundle and I'd assume they don't do downgrades. (Within a "branch"...

It seems like the rollout paused rather--conveniently--before the Thanksgiving holiday. I'm guessing they have a rollout freeze in place this weekend and people will be newly inducted starting Monday. (At least that's what I'm hoping... otherwise I've gotta wait until the next version to get on...

Heh yeah. It seemed like all the SS dings I got for "Hard Braking" were when I actually used the brake pedal as opposed to stopping entirely using regen. If this SS isn't actually complete BS, Tesla should be using it to evaluate the performance of their path planner: if I'm able to drive around...

There's a somewhat well-known bug (erm, "feature" from our FSD beta wannabe perspective) where rebooting the touchscreen before putting the car in park after a drive where you suspect you drove "unsafely" will prevent that drive from being logged, thereby allowing you to only count "good" drives...

I'm also in NC (Raleigh area) and am wondering if there's some limiting by region going on here. I was at 98 for weeks and just did a SS reset today and got up to SS100 with >100mi. Maybe I'll drive up to the Virginia border and see if crossing into Virginia magically gives me an update :p.

Yeah I had a sustained 98 for weeks. No update on the latest push. I gave up and did a SS reset. Now I'm at SS100 with >100mi, but haven't gotten an update onto the beta track. It's been <1d though so wee'lllll seeeeee.

I'm in a similar boat right now... Had a sustained 98 for a few weeks and didn't get FSD with the 10.5 push. I was fairly convinced this release didn't actually expand to 98's and decided to do a SS reset and aim for a 100. I unenrolled this morning, waited ~2h for the SS to disappear from the...