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  1. dschol

    Model S (2012-2020) Snow Chains

    Thought I’d report back that the new studs that Tesla put on my 2013 Model S work perfectly with the chains. I’ve been able to drive around for long distances without them falling off. See my previous post for what the replacement studs look like.
  2. dschol

    Model S (2012-2020) Snow Chains

    I brought my 2012 S to the SC in San Francisco and showed them what was going on with the chains. They had a few lug nuts in stock that they called “original style” and they installed one on each of my wheels. I haven’t had a chance to test them out with the chains yet, but they appear to be...
  3. dschol

    Model S 19 inch Snow chain come off?

    I’ve got the Konig chains for both my 2012 Model S and my 2022 Model S. They would fall off of the 2012 regularly because of the lug nut problem described in the other discussion. I got Tesla to swap out some of those lug nuts so now it works properly. I’ve never had any problem with the chains...
  4. dschol

    How is my '22 MSLR in the snow?

    I’ve got a 2013 RWD Model S with winter tires and a 2022 S with the Continental all seasons. I just had the opportunity to drive both cars in pretty heavy snow on the same mountain road on the same day in the Tahoe area. The 2013 got completely stuck and we had to put chains on to get it out...
  5. dschol

    Model S (2012-2020) Snow Chains

    Stuart, did you ever find a solution to this problem? I have a 2013 Model S and have the exact same problem as you with the chains.
  6. dschol

    What size chains work for you refreshed model s?

    Drive safely. I’m in the Tahoe area right now and the snow is intense. Good luck!
  7. dschol

    Winter Tire Rec for Bay Area Refresh S

    I am dealing with the San Francisco SC. Service there has generally been excellent.
  8. dschol

    Winter Tire Rec for Bay Area Refresh S

    Thanks to everyone who has replied to this thread. Super helpful. And it would make sense that these chains would work on the Refresh S given that the K-Summit K45 are what Tesla sells for the pre-refresh S. I'll call Tesla and see if I can get them to confirm that these will work. If they will...
  9. dschol

    2021+ Model S LR Delivery Tracking

    The discussion about summer tires has been super informative, especially for the uninitiated like me. Thank you. I'm in the Bay Area of California but I spend a lot of time in Tahoe, so I bounce between moderate weather and cold weather. The SAs I was working with assured me that my car would be...
  10. dschol

    Winter Tire Rec for Bay Area Refresh S

    I got my new MSLR 19” the other day. (It’s awesome! I posted about it on the LR thread.) Tesla promised me it would come with all season tires but of course they delivered it with the Pirelli PZ4 summers. I live in the CA Bay Area where winter temps are usually in the 50s and 60s, but I’ll...
  11. dschol

    2021+ Model S LR Delivery Tracking

    Hi everyone, I FINALLY GOT MY CAR!!! This thing is INSANE! I can't stop thinking about it and am driving it every free second I have. And when I'm not driving in it, I'm sitting in it in my garage. 🤪 I'm coming from a 2013 P85, which is the only car I've owned in the last ~9 years and the...
  12. dschol

    2021+ Model S LR Delivery Tracking

    I could use some advice from the brain trust. I finally got the text to schedule delivery of my car! They want to do home delivery. Is that a bad idea since I won’t be able to inspect the interior, or should I just do it? I highly doubt I’d reject the car unless there’s something egregious that...
  13. dschol

    2021+ Model S LR Delivery Tracking

    I’m a fellow RN1144. I had similar moves with my EDD where it was pushed out a few weeks and then brought back in. Then a couple days later I got a VIN. Fingers crossed that you get a VIN soon. I think it’s going to happen.
  14. dschol

    2021+ Model S LR Delivery Tracking

    Things going through my head now that I’ve gotten a VIN: 1. Tesla better not make me pick up the car before Thanksgiving. I’m already out of town. But after a ten month wait, I guess I’d fly back to get it. 2. Do I wake up my wife to tell her we got a VIN? 3. What am I going to do to...
  15. dschol

    2021+ Model S LR Delivery Tracking

    I finally got a VIN!!!! I can’t believe it. NF459 Am I pathetic for checking after midnight here in the Bay Area? Of course the first thing I wanted to do is share it with all of you… Pretty sure it flipped after midnight since I checked around 11pm and I didn’t have a VIN then.
  16. dschol

    2021+ Model S LR Delivery Tracking

    Well, I didn't get a VIN yesterday as I was hoping I would. Instead, the beginning of my EDD pushed out two days but the back end stayed the same. Now I'm sitting at Nov. 20-Dec. 2. I've had this happen so many times in the last ten months that I'm not holding my breath. Nice to see so many...
  17. dschol

    2021+ Model S LR Delivery Tracking

    I’m also in California (Bay Area) and this has been the pattern for me up until recently… I get into my EDD range and then it pushes back two days. This has happened to me so many times I’ve lost count. The only change in that pattern was recently when I got into my EDD range and then was...
  18. dschol

    2021+ Model S LR Delivery Tracking

    You are giving me hope! Thank you! But no VIN in the source code. I’m worried about getting shafted since Tesla seems to leave Fremont area deliveries for EOQ. I’ve been in my EDD window so many times over the last ten months that I don’t know what to make of the latest one. We’ll see…
  19. dschol

    2021+ Model S LR Delivery Tracking

    My latest EDD range starts tomorrow. I happened to be at my local SC this morning to have my ancient MS serviced (it’s a 2013) so I figured I’d go talk to an SA to find out if they have any info on my order. I have not received a VIN but was told the expected delivery date of the car to the SC...
  20. dschol

    2021+ Model S LR Delivery Tracking

    It’s pretty clear that the SAs can see the estimated factory build date of your car if it has been scheduled. But they have no control over the date and the factory seems to change scheduling pretty frequently. I can understand why some SAs might not want to share that info because of the...
  21. dschol

    2021+ Model S LR Delivery Tracking

    I hear you. There sure is a lot of good news flowing around. I’m going to channel @Louiedog and try to be optimistic. VIN coming this week!
  22. dschol

    2021+ Model S LR Delivery Tracking

    My EDD saga continues. After getting pushed out two weeks and given a month range yesterday, the date has now been pulled back in and the range tightened to Nov-18-Dec. 2. OD 1/27 MSM Black/19s/No FSD. The Tesla monkey is teasing me and it’s driving me crazy. I think I need some kind of...
  23. dschol

    2021+ Model S LR Delivery Tracking

    Similar experience here. I’m super frustrated since I’ve been waiting 10 months for this car. I ordered on 1/27. MSM/19s/No FSD. Basically every time I get into the window it slides back, usually by a couple days. I’ve had that happen three times already in November. But this morning I woke up...
  24. dschol

    2021+ Model S LR Delivery Tracking

    I did but I gave up. Back in September when I had an EOQ EDD the SAs in my local SC were sure I’d get a car late September or early October. Obviously that didn’t happen. At some point I may try pulling strings at corporate… or maybe just get an M3. I don’t know.
  25. dschol

    2021+ Model S LR Delivery Tracking

    Yesterday I hit my EDD range for the fourth time since I ordered the car in January. And like every other time so far, I woke up the next day to a pushed out EDD range. It's now sitting at Nov. 8-22 instead of Nov. 5-19. I'm pretty sure they are never going to deliver this car to me. OD 1/27...
  26. dschol

    This service situation is getting abysmal.

    This is one of those things that is going to hurt Tesla over the medium/long term if they don’t get it sorted out. Because of Tesla’s awful service, I, for one, will not buy another Tesla once another manufacturer has an electric car that meets my needs. (I need 400 miles of range for a frequent...
  27. dschol

    2021+ Model S LR Delivery Tracking

    My EDD also just pushed out but narrowed. Went from Oct. 31-Nov. 28 to Nov. 5-Nov. 19. But I’m still not holding my breath. I’ve had tight windows before and they’ve come and gone without a VIN.
  28. dschol

    2021+ Model S LR Delivery Tracking

    Nope. Per usual, I got into my delivery window and then the dates started pushing back. This is the third time I’ve been in a delivery window including Q3 EOQ. New delivery window is Oct. 31-Nov. 28. RN144 MSM Black 19s OD 1/27. I’m worried I’m going to get pushed into 2022 like @SoCalDude...
  29. dschol

    2021+ Model S LR Delivery Tracking

    Ugh, that sucks. I’m pretty worried this is going to happen to me. I’m also a Jan order RN144 MSM black 19s. I’m in my delivery window, which is now Oct. 24-Nov. 14 but every day it pushes back a few days. I wouldn’t be surprised to see it suddenly push to December. I wonder if they’re not...
  30. dschol

    2021+ Model S LR Delivery Tracking

    So, I’m now in my third delivery window, this time 10/20-11/9. This is for a 1/27 OD RN144 MSM Black 19s No FSD. Anyone want to guess what the over-under is on me receiving a car sometime in this window? I’m not holding my breath. I do feel like I have the ”privilege” of being one of the earlier...
  31. dschol

    Wiki Model S Delivery Update

    I had a 35 minute stop at the Rocklin, CA SC last night to charge my 2012 S85 for my drive from the Bay Area to Tahoe. The fact that my old car charges at a snail’s pace and only has 220 miles of range gave me plenty of time to walk around the parking lot to see the refreshed S as I had never...
  32. dschol

    2021+ Model S LR Delivery Tracking

    I’m in a similar situation. Ordered 1/27 MSM black 19s. Order date moved from end Sept. to Oct 9-29 and more recently Oct 20-Nov 9. I called the San Francisco SC yesterday to see if they had more info. They don’t, but the SA tried hard to upsell time to a Plaid. He said they have 15 Plaids in...
  33. dschol

    2021+ Model S LR Delivery Tracking

    I’m a Jan. order also MSM and also in CA. I got pushed out from EOQ to Oct. 20-Nov 9 and then moved in yesterday to Oct. 9-Oct. 29. Also no communication from Tesla this whole time. I finally called my local SC and talked to an SA earlier this week. FWIW, she was super nice and said they have...
  34. dschol

    Wiki Model S Delivery Update

    If it makes you feel any better, I suspect I'm the chump on this forum. I'm also in the SF Bay Area and I ordered on Jan. 27 and STILL don't have my LR MSM/black/19s/No FSD. EDD moved a couple days ago from Sept 26-30 to Oct 20-Nov 9. Aaaaaaah!
  35. dschol

    2021+ Model S LR Delivery Tracking

    I’m going crazy here. My EDD just jumped from EOQ (Sept. 25-30) to Oct. 20 to Nov. 9. What the heck? There’s nothing unusual about my order. MSM Black 19s 1/27, very close to Fremont. Lots of other people are getting this car. Maybe Elon reads these forums, saw that I had a hissy fit and...
  36. dschol

    2021+ Model S LR Delivery Tracking

    Excited for you and also happy to see that cars of my build are getting delivered in the Bay Area. On the other hand, it’s driving me bonkers that I ordered in Jan. and still not a peep from Tesla. In a childish fit of rage, I removed FSD from my build. Not giving Tesla that extra $10k for now...
  37. dschol

    2021+ Model S LR Delivery Tracking

    I’m in the exact same boat. Also 30 minutes from Fremont. Exact same build I think (MSM Black 19s). Order date 1/27. What gives???
  38. dschol

    2021+ Model S LR Delivery Tracking

    My EDD sat at Sept 21-30 for weeks and just moved forward a day today to Sept 20-30. I’m a Jan 27 order and within 30 miles of Fremont. Not a peep from anyone at Tesla in the 8 months I’ve been waiting, so I can’t imagine I’m getting a car tomorrow. I’ve got an MSM 19” build. Anyone know if MSM...
  39. dschol

    2021+ Model S LR Delivery Tracking

    RN 1144 NorCal near Fremont. My EDD expanded by two days with the front end moving up from Sept. 21 to Sept. 19. After 7 months of waiting for this car, having the EDD move up two days is way too exciting… MS LR 1/27 RN1144 MSM/Black/19s/FSD/NorCal.
  40. dschol

    2021+ Model S LR Delivery Tracking

    Mine is also a 9 date range at the end of September. And I’m also a Norcal 1/27 order RN144 MSM/Black/19s/FSD. My theory on this is that they are saving us folks near Fremont for the EOQ rush since we’re easy deliveries. It seems like later orders on the east coast and Midwest are getting...
  41. dschol

    Navigation Issues

    I am having the exact same problem with my 2013 S85 that also had the memory recall performed. I believe this is some kind of bug in the latest software release. If I reset the computer (by holding down the two buttons on the steering well), the nav starts working again. However, once the car...
  42. dschol

    Wiki Model S Delivery Update

    I had this happen. I suspect it’s some browser cache issue. I opened a new private window and then it worked fine. I’d guess that restarting the browser would also fix it.
  43. dschol

    2021+ Model S LR Delivery Tracking

    I’m in the same boat. RN1144 1/27 order. MSM/Black/FSD/19
  44. dschol

    Nervous now for ordering a Model S

    Based on the early reports it seems like quality of the new S is pretty high. And if you want an EV that’s amazing to drive and with significant range and a charging network, there’s really no other option (yet). What I’ve found with Tesla service is that if you have a little patience and are...
  45. dschol

    2021+ Model S LR Delivery Tracking

    My EDD changed to August this morning after being blank for over a month. I’m a Jan 27 order (refresh announcement date) RN 1144. MSM/Black/19”/FSD.
  46. dschol

    Model S - Buying a used 2014 model

    I’m still driving a 2013 S85, though I have a Refresh S on order. My family and I find the seats to be fine, but we’re not super picky. I haven’t done a full, 100% charge in A long time, but my guess is that we’d get 230-240 miles of range depending on weather conditions and elevation changes...
  47. dschol

    Wiki Model S Delivery Update

    I have an LR FSD on order and I've been stuck at August ever since they did the early April website update. I feel kind of shafted beacuse I ordered on 1/27, the day of the refresh announcement, and I'm near Fremont. I thought I'd have a shot at an early date, but oh well. And all these dates...
  48. dschol

    Wiki Model S Delivery Update

    I ordered on 1/27 LR MSM RN1144. I'm in the SF Bay Area. This morning the estimated delivery was July. It now says August...
  49. dschol

    Which would you choose Y or S?

    I went back and forth on this and have ultimately decided on the S. I currently own a 2013 S and while I love the car, it's a beast to drive around cities like San Francisco. While I would have preferred the slightly smaller size and form factor of the Y, we also do a lot of road trips...
  50. dschol

    Suggested service inspection before warranty expiration?

    I have a 2012 Model S85 that's about to come off extended warranty. I am planning to bring it in to Tesla for service so they can look it over and see if it needs any warranty work. Is that a good idea and, if so, is there anything you'd recommend I ask them to look at? I have to say the car has...