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Or, more important, I like what Mark Twain said many, many years ago... “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience”. Whether people have good or bad opinions, or are thought of as trolls because of their negativity, there is always that...

Not sure it is 100% margins. Last I read, Tesla was buying $10B+ in Nvidia GPU’s/chips for training and end to end neural nets, And Dojo costs, along with all the people power to put all this together.

Thank you for this information @bmd00. Someone on the other thread stated about 20 minutes ago to check the 24hour movement on TSLA, and although I don’t put much into before and after hours pricing, TSLA was at $175 about 20 minutes ago, and now it is at $177. That is a significant increase...

Lots of drinking in your neck of the woods @Max Plaid ? Of course, just joking…

What is Max Pain today?

Why can’t you buy shares direct from TD Ameritrade / Schwab or some other company. Maybe this is a Europe thing, but just buy 1 share direct and you can vote. Is it really much harder than that?

Just one persons opinion, and we all know what that is worth…but, as @tivoboy stated a couple of weeks ago, or maybe longer, he had positions that the S&P might be going down (I hope I am correct here) and, I think we all have been seeing these big swings in the stock market these past few...

Sorry about this. Could you be assigned and be ok? I say this as I do think long term we will be fine, but that could be 3-5 years. Right now, we are in that “production hell” or “Elon selling” situation with tesla and none of us know how low this can go before the market makes a u- turn on...

It needs one more clause that the only tweets should be about the positive future of Tesla and no personal tweets. Fiduciary...and all that stuff!

Bless your heart

No one said anything about a Catastrophe, Just stating a fact when others thought this was more fake news... but you keep commenting and trying to change the narrative...after awhile, you become noise!

I guess this note turned out to be true...problem with the accelerator pedal. From Whole Mars Catalog: Tesla has stopped all Cybertruck deliveries for 7 days due to an issue with the accelerator pedal

Would like to give an opposing view of Sasha as not every person on the internet is correct, proceed and caution at your own risk. I have listened to Meet Kevin for the last 3 years, and whether you like or dislike him, I do think he keeps it real and brings understanding to complicated issues...

So, do we not believe in free speech? Whether he was pompous, completely wrong or trolling, we all have the ability to tune him out and not respond. And, put him/her on ignore! This forum should be for anyone to give their opinion. As long as he does not shoot anyone or cause harm to others...

I follow this thread and other investor threads every day and you seem to be doing very well with the scalping. I do some options but I keep it simple with put and calls, and not much risk as I keep my “bets” small so I don’t lose my shirt. Although I did go big (Puts) before P&D and I am...

Sorry, I should have been clearer with that statement. I am 100% in TSLA as I believe in Tesla, and they will do well long term! But, my portfolio is not only TSLA, as I have other stocks that I own that have done very well these last few years including: NVDA, LLY, NVO, AMZN, META, NU, PLTR...

Thanks @Max Plaid for your thoughts. I 100% agree. I am amazed at some very prominent people on this forum that seem to live with blinders on not seeing reality in what is currently happening with Tesla, the Auto business and the economy right now. I am all for Tesla and TSLA Dominating in...

And if pigs can fly.... I get the excitement of FSD, that will eventually lead to RT. And, now we know that Elon will have an unveiling of RT on August 8th...forced on him due to the Reuter’s Misinformed story. I do not think it was a coincidence that both happened on the same day. Also, I...

@Yoona. So you do not think the already 30%+ drop since January is factored in?? I am also thinking we have more “down” to go between now, earnings call and after earnings, but I keep hearing it is already in the stock price. Your thoughts?

And what about people who have the Model S, like my family, who, since early 2013 bought Model S to support the cause and be an early adopter (on our 4th Model S now), and yet, we still do not have active FSD as part of the 30 day trial. Tesla states they are working on a fix and hope to get...

And, are you going to sell again sometime between now and earnings when we might go into the 150’s/140’s when EPS is down again and the next quarter does not look so good? I will continue to follow Troy and work on building my 3rd mountain with his analysis while continue holding my core shares...

And are we still production constrained…. I think not…Lucy, we have some problems here!

Not so true, one in particular stated he was right on 2 calls and that should be respected. Or was that the traveler guy who predicted TSLA going up. But...I am surprised TSLA has held up fairly well, considering this P&D was a disaster. I did sell most of my puts for a very nice profit and...

At least Troy was closest to this bad P&D, and if people considered his analysis, short term, they could have profited.

I keep it simple…Puts at 165 on 4/5, Puts at 165 on 4/26, Puts at 160 on 4/26, Puts at 155 on 4/26, Puts at 150 on 5/24. Sort of a hedge against all of my shares. And, I have a decent amount of cash available to buy, if we get into the 150’s and 140’s over the next few months. The funny...

But maybe, as many on these forums think, the most probable bad P&D and lower earnings are already baked in based on the 30% stock price decline since the beginning of 2024. I don’t think so, but we will find out in less than 1 month. I have made my options placements, both short and longer term.

Thank you. And thanks to @cliff harris , @EVWatcher , @Singuy , @CaliBear1 @Tony73 and @Hiline for all of your thoughts on this topic. All were very helpful and informational

Would love to hear what @Discoducky would say about this. I am no expert, just watching videos on YouTube, and as we all know, everyone on the internet is always correct😉. @Discoducky, would you be so kind to share your view on this topic as you had worked for tesla and have actual experience...

I am not sure this is completely accurate. While it is true that tesla does have 6 million cars delivering data, the reason the jump from version 11 to version 12 was so substantial was because of AI / end to end Neural nets that tesla is using now. As we now know, a neural network is a method...

Except, if we have so many that are “right” and they can’t lose, they should be quadtrillionaires. No one really knows! They are taking an educated guess based on their analysis. sometimes I even get it right...sort of like that broken clock.

I mostly agree with you and @insaneoctane and @Mengy . I have been a major TSLA investor since 2013 and I have held through all the ups and downs including the disaster from October 2022 till January 2023. All stocks go up and down, even the best ones that have been staples within people’s...

Waiting to buy back in at $160 or $150 after P&D and earnings later in April.

Here is my TA for tomorrow based on what I think we will hear from wicked Stocks, for Friday, March 22nd. TSLA could go up, or, it could go down, but most likely down. Take that to the bank. Not advice!

If we feel confident of a dump, Why not just double down as the stock goes up so you dollar cost average? As TSLA was going up later in the day, I kept buying the same put for 4/5 at a lower price. My overall average price is now not so under water, and if it does tank, due to P/D being lousy...

Overall, I agree with your post, however, I do think Elon takes his job seriously as a CEO, He is just juggling too many companies at once and clearly has full confidence in his Tesla Management team. His only negative is that he thinks his commenting publicly on every little thing that come...

@Knightshade ... with your last few posts, (and, quite honestly, all your posts) you have given a Master Class in Reality. We can all be Tesla supporters and believers in what Tesla will do in the future and their mission, But reality needs to be spoken (written in this case) and I agree with...

I like Cathy and her optimism, however, A lot has changed since then and I think she moved her projections to 2027-2030. Even Tesla during the last earnings call said growth this year would be less than in 2023...yet, there are some bulls on this forum who think TSLA could be sandbagging. I...

Not quite understanding your math. You stated “They are often exactly in the middle of a big move, meaning 50% is still to come.”. With the math you presented, where is the 50% still to come? I saw you deducted 90 from 205 to get to 115, but no division of the 50%? I clearly missed how you...

The trend is down and there is no news coming stating otherwise. And, I read the eps Was revised downward as well for the year. I am thinking we might be in the 160’s over the next couple of weeks and a lower P&D could move the stock down further. I hope I am wrong...but this is starting to...

Remember, Hope is not a strategy, FSD/Autonomous driving is at least 1 refresh away for the Model 2. Sure, we are getting close, but not close enough. Autonomous driving/robo taxi is at least 6-8 years away. Optimus has a better chance of being within manufacturing facilities before robo taxi...

I think the point is that this is, yet another WSJ FUD hit piece that all can view, and most viewing do not have the same level of information that we have. This piece is filled with misinformation, “sources” as well as “alleged” and puts Musk and his board in a very bad place. WSJ has lost...

If only hope were a strategy! And it looks like technicals are out the window!

But don’t we already know this? Tesla has a Mexico site that will start construction soon, and supposedly, a pilot plant within Giga Texas that is supposed to start this next gen car late this year or early next year. Isn’t this just confirmation?

Well, @dl003 stated that because some of us on the main thread were getting on Musk because he made this public and anything Musk states, especially when it can be seen as negative, tanks the stock short term. And, I am guessing he felt that if we are complaining, get out of the stock as we...

Why does he always have to put foot in mouth first!

If you listened to his last quarterly call, he certainly sounded like a bear!!

Elon has specifically mentioned it multiple times on conference calls over the last year. His own words. Edit: also mentioned above by @Captkerosene…

What? Did you just go off, off, off topic. Nobody mentioned anything about he spends his money…that is his choice as long as that money does not tank TSLA! Oh, that kind of happened already by not selling privately when buying X.

So….does it tank 5%, 8% or surprise us and we are up at the end of the day….??

Negotiate in private, be a big boy with big boy pants and discuss this directly with the board! And the board does need to develop testicles and put forth a comp package that is fair but also includes more protection for the shareholders so he does not tweet everything that comes into his mind...