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We are eligible. Manager at my delivery location confirmed it’s the off the menu standard range that is excluded, SR+ is included.

I think they're referring to the $35k off-menu SR, they may have some that are still pending delivery. I take delivery of an SR+ today, so I'll let you know

Yea - they may have the production visualization ready to go out, or may just have an option to make your visualization look like the developer screen the testers have now - as sort of an Easter egg. The screen grab in the tweet can be read in different ways too - did the email talk about FSD...

I should say inputs from the environment. I don't see them having different software stacks for AP vs EAP vs FSD - if anything Tesla's philosophy on manufacturing is to create efficiency and reduce redundancy. Driver inputs are definitely a source of dangerous behavior, but the current...

I would think any underlying changes to how the car handles inputs would be updated regardless of FSDBeta vs not. It may be a FSDBeta teaser that has you go on a prescribed route in your local area that is known to be safer - no unprotected lefts, roundabouts, weird lane changes. IMO -...

What would watered down FSD beta features look like? Only right turns?

Due to take delivery tomorrow, excited but decided to pull FSD from my order. Had it locked at 8k, but decided it's ultimately not worth it right now.

Was looking at the upgrade to FSD page on my M3 and noticed that "FSD computer" is listed as an included option in the upgrade. Since HW3 (current FSD computer) is included standard on the M3, does this imply that those who purchase the upgrade now will have access to any new hardware in the...

Got a text saying 12/22 is my anticipated delivery date, but no VIN or delivery date update on my order page.

I’m waiting on MSM Vin too

Even still, over time the SR+ will also degrade and the range difference over a longer ownership period will eventually average out and be proportionally similar to the stated ranges. PS: How I Recovered Half of my Battery's Lost Capacity << have you tried any of the tricks in this post?

I think in your case, the lack of warranty and fit/finish issues are concerning. Is this direct from Tesla? Disagree with the above regarding range difference being negligible. Even if the battery on the used has 7.5% degradation (a lot), range will be 300 miles on a LR RWD, still about...

Congrats! Hope it's awesome! Did any of your paperwork indicate the battery capacity to your knowledge?

I don’t know how much I would trust it. 18 Dec is the exact mid point of your window. I also got that “tentative delivery date” from an SA that was directly in the middle of my displayed window.

Shucks... Seems like folks in the SR+, LR and Perf. waiting rooms have all had delivery window updates. Thats enough data points to say that the change may (hopefully) mean something.

Not to diminish your fear of range anxiety, but are you ever in any situations where 10 miles would make a difference? You can simulate common routes on A Better Routeplanner to account for degradation. Under settings, you can play with degradation. 10 miles on a LR AWD is about 3.2%. So you...

Sometimes you can find pictures on TeslaCPO.io - Search Tesla's Vehicle Inventory Also, if you already put down the $500 + Transport fee deposit - those are non-refundable

Someone in the SR+ waiting room posted something similar! Could be good news. You can always check the page source code to see if the VIN is there - Reveal your VIN before it appears on your account

Congrats! Not change for me, but ordered a few weeks after you. Reveal your VIN before it appears on your account ^^^ Some have reported that the VIN hitting your reservation page can be delayed but is found in the source code. The above thread gives some instructions on how to find

So I think I'm deciding that even $8k isn't worth it right now. Did an extended test drive with FSD to see if it was worth it and was very underwhelmed by NoA + FSD Probably logged about 100 miles trying to use it, and I got more used to using it by the end and was comfortable with letting it...

This is a screen-grab from a Tesla promo video, not an actual customer picture.

Did they give you a VIN? The 10th position would be "M" if 2021, "L" if 2020

Still have mine

Somewhere in those tweets it's claimed that SR+ is getting the 82 kWh pack...don't know how much I'd believe that, but it brings up an interesting idea... @verygreen found that there is a hidden battery type in recent software labeled "336", so if the SR+ truly does have a 82 kWh pack, this...

If you’re using regen breaking, break replacements shouldnt happen for quite some time.

Got it Some thinks to ponder: I'd ask yourself how much you enjoy having FSD features like NoA and auto park and whether or not you think you'd have FOMO if you didn't have any of the new updates if/when they come out (ie auto steer on city streets). Do you use them frequently? Do you think...

Is the trade in value worth more than your principal on the original loan? If not, you'd have to add that negative equity into your cost.

Source page stalker tip, search for " vin " - spaces before and after allows you to avoid instances of vin being nestled in other words Also...fun source code fact, they still have EAP coded into the page at a $4,000 price tag

Ordered SR+ 2 weeks ago, got text yesterday saying 4-7 weeks. Website now says new orders have an estimated delivery of 4-7 weeks....

and it's non-refundable :(

@7:00: Driver: "Making the left...it's staying in the lane. Awesome" Narrator: "He in fact, was not staying in the lane." What I wonder is that it seems in all these videos, most drivers are staying hands off and letting the vehicle take the time to correct itself - but wouldn't it provide...

after placing the initial order, when the payment screen asks for credit application information - should this be filled out now or when a VIN is assigned?

Awesome presentation/analysis of the data! Any thoughts as to why EPA data is lagged on the SR+ refresh?

Sorry to hear about your job :( Any other features on the car driving the price? A new SR+ in MSM w/EAP would end up being $44,290 before tax.

Greet analogy...makes a lot of sense - can't ever add hardware. I definitely intend to have it for a long while. I always wonder what the subscription will cost in 3 years time when it may be reasonable to expect the functionality may come to fruition. If this is the case, ~$250/mo is the...

The opinions of many are how consensus is built. May revisit the idea of doing what you said - did test drive an AWD - definitely a fun car to whip around without any computers controlling it.

Should have specified - that is all in with tax - so about $7k off of your price. Still - maybe not the best deal comparing List vs List - about 17% discount. Do you say FSD isn't worth it for any specific reason? Like do you not use it that much beyond what AP provides?

Fortunately a used with 30k miles on it will have 3y/30k mile warranty - so not to much less than a new and hopefully some of those warranty repairs of a new car would have already been done. Unfortunately AWD performance is around $60k with tax :( Surprising that you noticed a difference in...

I've been really struggling with deciding on what to get as my next vehicle: 2021 SR+ base (42k after tax) 2021 SR+ w/FSD (50.5k) 2018 LR RWD w/FSD (46.5k - direct from Tesla) - VIN indicates it's a 2018 Q4 production date This will be the first EV in our house and we'll be able to charge from...