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  1. Dutchie

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Hopefully, I made a huge contribution in the training data today. I had to make a very hard brake while on FSD supervised. My car wanted to accelerate into the roundabout right when a car on the roundabout was approaching. I prevented a 100% crash if had let FSD do its thing. I don’t blame...
  2. Dutchie

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Heard a suggestion yesterday that Tesla should stop offering FSD as a purchase option and go for a subscription offering only. I thought it was an interesting idea.
  3. Dutchie

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Ok, after two, weeks, I stand corrected! FSD does much better than when I first installed it. I don’t know what it is but is seems to learn on the fly. it now sometimes uses indicators when approaching a roundabout! It is a bit inconsistent though. Sometimes it drives like a grandma and...
  4. Dutchie

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Had to look that one up. This thread is also great for expanding your vocabulary
  5. Dutchie

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Well, well. Look at the investors darling NVDA…
  6. Dutchie

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    You only drive the wrong way around
  7. Dutchie

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    I have read from people in Canada having a similar experience. Perhaps it is a regional thing
  8. Dutchie

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    After been reading and watching enviously for a couple of weeks about the hype of V12 I finally installed V12.3.4 yesterday coming from V11. Believing in the hype I was ready to invest more in TSLA, but having experienced the new version I will hold off for the moment. Compared to V11 I find...
  9. Dutchie

    FSD v12.x (end to end AI)

    Had my second drive on V12.3.4 coming from V11. I am not that impressed. Yes, it is better than V11 but marginally so. It still has some slight phantom braking, I still have to use the accelerator to help it move. It still does some odd lane choises and it doesn’t use indicators entering and...
  10. Dutchie

    FSD v12.x (end to end AI)

    Just drove for the first time on V12 (12.3.4) it did ok. - wipers are finally working - it accelerates nicely - it drives more confident - no more strange stop's in the middle of the road stops so far - no more phantom braking? - Still has a hard time with roundabouts. Is it so hard turning...
  11. Dutchie

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Yes, you can see the negativity in this and trust me, I often do as well. Back then, Elon did not realize how hard it would be. I don’t think you can blame him for that. You must applaud his tenacity and perseverance. How easy would it have been to just throw in the towel, give everyone a...
  12. Dutchie

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    So, how much can I earn with my car again if I put it in the fleet of Robotaxis?
  13. Dutchie

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    No, there is no explanation. We upgraded to HW3 a long time ago and also have the MCU2 installed for we paid also extra. Basically the same setup as the earlier refreshed Model S and X. He doesn’t give any information on what needs to be validated. He also said he would post information slides...
  14. Dutchie

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    I am a sucker who bought into the FSD story from day one. Now I see others who haven’t paid a dime for FSD supervised get it before me on much cheaper cars. Tesla is just forgetting about, us who supported them when the times were rough. Still no FSD supervised for the legacy Model S and...
  15. Dutchie

    FSD v12.x (end to end AI)

    Non of the older Model S and X in US or Canada got it. Compared to the other cars there are nowadays too few of us so we are wayyy back in line, despite the fact that we are supporters of FSD since the beginning. In my case since 2017.
  16. Dutchie

    FSD v12.x (end to end AI)

    I paid for FSD years ago. Good money which could have been used to buy TSLA stock and would have made some nice gains. Yet, I believed in the mission only to see people who haven’t paid a dime for FSD, who also drive nuch cheaper cars than ours, get to enjoy FSD supervised way ahead of us. This...
  17. Dutchie

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    That’s right. I am one of them.
  18. Dutchie

    FSD v12.x (end to end AI)

    I see in Teslafi they there are 0 installs for 12.3.2.1 for Model X and S with HW3. So I assume that this install is only for cars without ultra sensors. I wonder when Telsa will disable the sensors and will go with vision only on these cars as well.
  19. Dutchie

    FSD v12.x (end to end AI)

    Not true. I have had FSD for years and I am 2024 branch already. I am in Canada though so everyone here is stil on FSD 11.x
  20. Dutchie

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    I like Tesla Elon I like SpaceX elon I like Neuralink Elon Heck, I even like hyperloop Elon I just deleted X — my goodness what a cesspool that has become since Elon took over.
  21. Dutchie

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    I remember watching these kind of videos when the Model S came out. Apparently there are still a lot of people out there who have no clue.
  22. Dutchie

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Or when indeed another OEM starts to take the license
  23. Dutchie

    Twitter app coming to your car

    The more I look at X the more I am turned off. I don’t like it anymore since Elon took over. Too much extremism, hate and violence. I used to be on Twitter quite a lot in the old days. Great site to get the latest news but since Elon turned it into X as a platform for free speech and...
  24. Dutchie

    FSD v12.x (end to end AI)

    I see that 12.3 is on 2023.44.30.25. I am on 2024.2.7. Does it mean that I have to wait until 12.3 catches up to the 2024 branche?
  25. Dutchie

    FSD v12.x (end to end AI)

    All this talk about the driver still bring responsible got me thinking. There are about 30,000 traffic fatalities in the US per year. Say that every car has FSD and and 99% of these fatalities will be prevented. So that 30,000 will go down all the way to 300 per year. That is a great success...
  26. Dutchie

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    in December 2022 I had to sell in the $130’s. Stock price is edging closer for me to buy back at these prices….
  27. Dutchie

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Data regarding collisions with EV’s and why repair bills are higher. Some tidbits from the report: - EV’s tend to be heavier than ICE counterparts resulting in more frequent airbag deployment - EV’s tend to use lighter materials which need to be replaced more often rather than repaired...
  28. Dutchie

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    So, why did these lawyers sue Tesla and Elon again? And what are the lawyers now asking? Talk about the Kettle and the Pot. A good judge would kick these lawyers with their demands right out of the courtroom.
  29. Dutchie

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    That was my first reaction. Asking 10% of what they saved for the litigant. Which is the quy with 9 or 10 shares. So how much would that be 2 or 3 cents? It is still difficult to comprehend.
  30. Dutchie

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Yes, I do. I am just very unfamiliar with these kind of litigative actions. Must be an American thing. This won’t happen in other parts of the world.
  31. Dutchie

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Yes and yes. And I still don’t understand. A guy hires a lawyer and agrees to pay him if he wins. He wins so he has to pay him. What has this got to do with Tesla or the Tesla shareholders? Tesla was never part of the contract between the lawyer and the guy who hired them - just the subject of...
  32. Dutchie

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    I don’t understand. What has this got to do with us? We and Tesla never hired them. They have a deal with the guy who hired them so he has to buy these shares on the open market and give the to his lawyers.
  33. Dutchie

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Never had an issue, but then again I have lifetime free supercharging
  34. Dutchie

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    That is even a non issue. Tesla doesn’t know my credit card number so they cannot charge me anything.
  35. Dutchie

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Just a small OT. Just received a message that my car is finally ready tomorrow after two months at the body shop after a minor crash. Really looking forward driving my own car again. Back in December I was hoping that I would have FSD 12 by the time my car is ready. That hasn’t happened -...
  36. Dutchie

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    I don't know if this a good thing. The energy of the accident is not absorbed by deforming the body of the cybertruck, but the energy needs to go somewhere. I had a similar accident 14 years ago. Rear-ended and my car was hardly deformed either. The consequence was that my car was jolted...
  37. Dutchie

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    The difference between NVIDIA and Tesla in my opinion: The issue with NVIDIA is that I really don't know what they will be doing in five years time - financially speaking. I can reasonably foresee what their financials will be next year, but longer than that? With Tesla, on the other hand, I...
  38. Dutchie

    Tesla VR / AR

    Star Trek’s holodeck might come sooner than you think. Dall-E can now draw pictures from spoken texts. It would not be a stretch got it to make them in 3D or even whole sceneries/stories in 3D just from spoken texts. What if you can show students the events of what happened at the battle of...
  39. Dutchie

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Sure, I understand it is the right thing to do for us long time shareholders but: - try to convince the guy who put his savings in TSLA at $380 a couple of years ago that it is the right thing to do… - try telling that to a fund manager from for instance Fidelity, who might get sued by buyers...
  40. Dutchie

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Why would we want to approve his package now? All the achievements have been met already. What’s in it for us to approve his compensation package at this stage. Just playing devils advocate here.
  41. Dutchie

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Ok, that was it for the stock to explode any time soon. But hey, look at the bright side, it gives us the next year or two to load up on shares.
  42. Dutchie

    FSD v12.x (end to end AI)

    Thanks, learning some new stuff here.
  43. Dutchie

    FSD v12.x (end to end AI)

    So V12 if full neural network where the systems from videos etc. and that there is no coding involved. I get that. But what I don’t understand is how the programmers keep control of the system. i have been watching Omar’s videos and at one time het says that this version is still overly...
  44. Dutchie

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    I agree. There are more companies out there which have a good chance of 2X or 3X your money in the next year or two. Better than TSLA imho. I think TSLA is a great investment for the 5 - 10 years but shorter term not so much.
  45. Dutchie

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    There is still a lot of work to be done. Amazing, how much misinformation is still out there.