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25k car is dead. They just said they will make some low cost models in the same production line. We dont' know the shape and cost of it. They refused to talk about it.

Does this mean we are going down or up?

Market still pumping.

Those numbers are at least 5 years from now. By DCF it’s overvalued now. This means stock could stay flat for years. TSLA is a meme stock. I can’t short with logic.

Thanks. Any plans on going long?

I agree with you. But any idea when this euphoria ends? I did some calculations even with 100% FSD adoption, stock is expensive. Every bull says FSD is working and we are going to moon. But no one was able to give me expected earnings from it.

yeah. But market seems to pump with the sentiment and not wait till they see the numbers.

There is a lot of lies in this. 1. 2 major growth waves doesn't count. It just reinforces TSLA as a car company that takes 4 years to come up with a new model. Overall growth is less and Margins lower. 2. He claims Q1 deliveries are supply related. Blatant lie. Also claim ~95k units was due to...

What is TTM?

P&D and Earnings expectations are still way too high. These revisions will only happen in the comming weeks. TSLA is trading at over 100 forward PE now. But lot of whales got in at 105. They will put up a fight and change the narative to save the stock.

Actual earnings still matter. They are projecting $1.5 EPS for 2024. Which mean TSLA is trading at 118 forward PE.

I don't think 1 month ahead GEX makes sense. For that to play out market has to be static. TSLA fundamentals are changing swiftly. Dealers don't have a say here.

Back then company fundamentals was still good.

@Yoona Where do you get Vanna data from?

They are using the wrong E to calculate PE. TSLA got one time tax refund last Q. So GAAP EPS is 2.21. But Non-GAAP is .71. That’s where this 44 PE comes from. It’s a wrong calculation.

They are using the wrong E. PE is ˜66 now.

A guy in CNBC said they selling NVDA and buying TSLA because NVDA is 3 times that of TSLA. These people don't care about Fundamentals. They look at the chart and see that TSLA is oversold.

Market being super euphoric. Do you think we go down before earnings? I agree fundamentals are bad. But the current players don't care about anything.

Whats next?

Whats the diff between market participants and dealers?

Agree. There are some stupid institutional traders buying in too. One trader in CNBC said, "Elon delivered a great Earnings Call and i bought in". Lack of bad news. These actors could push TSLA up. Lack of volume suggests TSLA MMs are largely absent.

Do you really expect 160?

Will we get a discount?

Everyday is like that. TSLA drifts up on low volume days.

Did we come to a conclusion on whether max pain matters or not?

What is triggered?

What is the point of Buy-Write Covered Call? Is it bullish or bearish position?

What does Buy Write Covered Call mean? Did you buy TSLA shares and sold CCs on it?

This time sell when TSLA hits $5T and now wait until Elon sells to bring the valuation to $500B again.

Is there a way to get historical data on options greeks?

Yoona Can you please teach me how you calculate your IC range?

No one knows anything. MM FOMO drove this entire market rally. Now these left over MMs who missed the rally are just shopping EOD. They know nothing. They are just idiots.

@Yoona What is next weeks range?

There was no reaction to the previous one because Elon already said deliveries will be low for that Q.

Thanks. That person was asking me to sign up for swiftopts.com

No. Really.

Just to confirm I am talking to u in telegram and not some imposter. R u in telegram?

How much can we trust GEX levels and Max pain? This week’s max-pain is 250. Do you expect it to close near there?

Thanks. Waiting for that.

That’s what I am doing now. Not much money there.

I didn’t buy enough shares and its risky to buy up here.

With the current euphoria in market, I am worried. Its already pumping in AH.

I like A. But a huge pump next two days wont' give us a big pull back.

Is it? I am waiting for this pullback for a long time. Its evasive and its frustrating me.

Looks like a bullish close and PM will add ~$4 to it. Likely we open ~ $264. The pullback to 240 seems evasive.

I think its FOMO into PD. They are pumping huge. I dont' see any valid reason to break above ATH DTL now.

Anyone see 270 this week?

There is too much euphoria in the market which is pissing me off. I couldn't get in without a good pullback.

They were not consistent on that. But it will be during market hours.

Will we get this drop to 240?