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I see, and so your 'source' of this is the forums? Not directly from Tesla? I don't recall seeing anything in the owners manual about this that advises owners to 'balance' their batteries or anything at all about conditioning them. Do you have a source other than the forums? In fact, I've...

Well given the hypothesis is coming from the general manager of a tesla service center I'm prone to believe him.

I agree with this, the stalk is hidden by the wheel, that said, this is a stock stalk setup from Mercedes and when my wife got her Mercedes, I had the same complaint about her car.

I see, so you are saying all car owners are having the exact same experience irrespective of battery pack version, time built, etc, etc? There are plenty of people who have noted in these threads of battery issues and degradation. Part of owning a Model S - I thought - in addition to its...

It isn't disingenuous at all, its fact. I have been communicating with Tesla on this (only written them once initially, but they on occasion respond back with a 'non update' to which I again voice my displeasure), they simply say they don't know when it will return. The more voices they here...

Larry, As i wrote, i did send my complaint to Tesla - once...thought that was pretty clear. And seems to me the only people who are upset with the thread still going are folks such as you and Tomas...why not just unsubscribe, or in Tomas' case, start a new thread that simply will provide...

people can always unsubscribe from the thread if they like. There are those of us who know Tesla watches these forums, and given that we are now over a month beyond when it was 'expected' to get the update, simply remaining silent doesn't guarantee anything. Just because there are some who...

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I think this is pretty cool, although I'm not sold yet :). Would be great to be able to sign up for updates at your website. For me given that I do not have a regular schedule, curious to see how the learning part works. Also would be great to have this plug into my home automation setup.

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Not entirely true, whether or not a Chargepoint station is free is up to the owner of the unit...some cost money (thus the need to register a credit car when setting up the account), some are free. Also, if I recall correctly, the Chargepoint account required a $25 deposit (used towards future...

I agree with most of this. Furthermore, there should be a means to 'warm up' the battery fully when its plugged in. In addition, the ability to turn on/off Range Mode from the phone app should be available as this does impact cabin warming. That said, i think having full regen is important...

This is the common believe, and in fact what the Ownership hotline says, however, this apparently is not true. I have had very specific conversations with my local SC Manager on this matter given that I saw no demonstrable benefit to 'pre-heating' the car as it pertained to the battery and...

Yes, done after, by a Tesla certified body shop in my area. My Blacked out Green MS - Page 3

And this is a productive comment bc....

1. Perfect example of needless moderation and nitpicking. See your comment 3 above. 2. Completely false. I jump on people when they give tesla a free pass. That's different than support. I have just as any comments supporting tesla as condemning them. So you're saying you've never judged a...

let exactly what rest? Clearly biased moderation? What exactly in my questioned inhibited the ability for anyone to add their opinion. My "agree to disagree" comment. Or the factual statement that some popes will give tesla a pass no matter what? My comments don't help in your opinion bc I...

LMAO. Where's the broad generalization Bonnie? The use of the word "some". Not exactly unbiased moderation.

this a new policy Bonnie or just as it applies to me bc people have commented on others opinions - you included - throughout this entire website. Or have you gone back and posted this "mod note" everywhere this has occurred.

No shocker you find no fault in teslas action but we will have to agree to disagree. 1). They haven't been forward at all unless you define forward as having something taken away that was a paid upgrade without warning, then given a nebulous reason as to why it was taken away on the first place...

And you know this how? Seems like pure speculation.

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The 6.0 in company cars is still not confirmed, please note I was at the Soho event and asked this question, you can PM AIMc as he has kindly given me and I believe others an update via PM as to the 'confirmation'. I can't recall anyone seeing a car that has '6.0' as the firmware, except maybe...

Really??? You are now telling me what my intent was? that was 'clearly' my intent? lol...quick, what am I thinking......now.

interesting...very interesting... Sometimes it hard to keep the faith: repeated Supercharging failure and bad service - Page 8

how on earth is this wordplay? how? you didn't even use 'number' you said think of specific examples...is me saying a 'number of times' that different than 'think of specific examples'??? really...quite a stretch brian, a huge stretch.

Yes, of course...i see in your example Jimbo was being completely serious when he said that...got it.

its a complete leap. You've never had someone say 'let's have an honest conversation' without it immediately implying your a dishonest person? you took an innocuous genuine effort to have a discussion and tried to make it into something it wasn't, plain and simple...but we aren't going to...

don't think so, you accused me of accusing you of being dishonest. I said I wasn't. you said yes i was because i suggested having an honest conversation meant you weren't being honest before. I said, no, it does not because dishonest implies malice...etc etc...i believe you are the one who is...

that's a good point....

very true, i asked to sit in one of the cars and was told, politely of course, no...

Artsci, this is very cool although I've been working with my local SC manager on having the "T E S L A" light up on the chrome back piece that connects the backup tail lights...the challenge has been to laser cut the letters out, but he seems to have the wiring, lighting and the mold to fill in...

And I attended the SoHo event and asked the same question and got an almost identical response... for clarity i asked if the cars they used lowered or allowed lowering at highway speeds and i got a smiling 'not yet' response...

?????? 1) we have not received a software update by the end of January 2) the year end was in reference to the cross country Supercharger path. Multiple quotes available if you google it, here's a few: Supercharger Expansion Allows for Tesla Cross-Country Trips Soon - Jason Del Rey - D11 -...

seriously???? c'mon. - - - Updated - - - well even I understand it if you're posting pics of a saab under the guise of a tesla...done with this thread.

well a couple of things...i'll change my language to be, "that's what I have both seen and been subject to all too often on these forums", that said, my statement wasn't a 100% absolute, while you're example of 'never' is. No lecture there Bonnie? - - - Updated - - - certainly, so in your...

I'm unsure of your point other than I was merely pointing out the hypocrisy of your comment. And now you'll point to mine....and around and around we go. your post also want inflammatory or blown out of proportion. Just hypocritical in that your making a post that was off topic about the off...

you felt the need to make a comment demeaning and belittling someone because you didn't agree with their point. seems pretty clear to me. and that's what happens all too often on these forums.

LOL, but Joe, you said, and I quote, 'Yeah, the car is great'. seems like you're confused :tongue: - - - Updated - - - Absolutely NOT what I said. What I said was that moderators should moderate (doesn't mean you shouldn't have an opinion), doing so, can put participants in an uncomfortable...

can you point me to where the fox news headline is, the insinuation, and the stockholders part?

Curious about this as well...did you goto the event in Soho?

I don't think so honestly, and its exactly the type of thinking that i've quoted above, that i think happens way too often and is expressed way too often on these forums? Is there really the need to insult? Why so quick to do so? Golden rule anyone? That said, the thread where this was...

really??? there would be no moderators? on almost every other site moderators don't participate...they moderate :) - - - Updated - - - Sounds like agreement to me :)...maybe begrudgingly so, but agreement none the less :) I think this has really manifested because this site was set up by...

As does yours above :)

Regarding the battery, I recall a video where Dave Duff, a senior Tesla engineer responsible for the creation of the fast connect coupling between the battery and the car stated the battery 'has no heavy metals' and can be ground up and re-used....here's a link to the video. Stanford Seminar -...

I'm unaware of any history Newbie may have, but again i point out my earlier comment on 'blowing out of proportion'...that said, we all have the ability to simply not respond to threads that we feel are inflammatory or 'blown out of proportion'.

can you post a pic further away, apologies but i still can't tell where this is happening so I can check...that's remarkable though

Let me clarify that I am not 'upset', but i do believe, as I've stated above, that there should be a clear separation of moderator/participant for reasons I've already stated. That said, ignoring the, as I read it condescending tone from huntjo post (although I could be wrong) and basically...

Probably not, but if it contained offensive or inappropriate language you should definitely forward it to a moderator. that said, the blowing things out of proportion is all a matter of opinion. some people think some things are a big deal, some don't, its not really for us to say what to...

That is moderating. Its not that moderators shouldn't have an opinion. But as it pertains to the role of moderating, no, they shouldn't. Having one's opinion challenged by a moderator is different than by another forum member. For example, shouldn't a moderator by this time have already...