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    Green New Deal

    If Solar is cheaper than coal, then leave the transition up to the market. The Green New Deal is net value destroyer that would more than double the federal budget and have to get the funds from printing money (which they admitted in the press release.) Stop assuming anything pro-Green is...
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    BMW, Daimler Partner on $1B Program for All-Electric On-Demand Transportation

    Uh, was the news that Daimler is merging its apps with BMWs? I didn't see anything else. The data in the press release were about supposedly existing businesses, which to read the press release are doing amazing business. Has anyone else heard of or used "Chargenow"? In the US, I use...
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    Mt. Kisco delivery for NH resident

    Nice write-up. I picked up my Model 3 at Mount Kisco in July, before the other lots were open. It was hectic even then. Question: why did you wait for the level-2 full charge? Superchargers would have been faster.
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    Tesla Model 3 delivery is FUBAR

    Here's how my Model 3 delivery went: 1. Pick up will be in late May. 2. No. Delivery is delayed. 3. Pick up will be July 10. Because we live in Albany, the capital of New York State, the closest Tesla service center is 2 ish hours from our house (not really Tesla's fault: Tesla stores are...
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    Outdoor NEMA 14-50 Enclosure

    Thanks. I didn't double check. I guess my electrician wired it wrong, then. I didn't double-check at the time.
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    Tire Repair Kit

    I got a Slime brand pump and sealer from Amazon for less than 1/2 the cost of the Tesla pump. It seems to work well at (slowly) refilling low tires on my other cars. I haven't had to use it to fix a flat yet, thought.
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    Outdoor NEMA 14-50 Enclosure

    I didn't know how the 14-50 plug on the UMC was oriented, and had my 14-50 receptacle installed like the Tesla 14-50 instruction diagram shows. In that configuration (that is, with the rounded plug receptacle down), the UMC needs to hang from a hook above the plug. If you want the UMC to hang...
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    Outdoor NEMA 14-50 Enclosure

    I have a Model 3 and went with NEMA 14-50 and UMC for home charging. Unless you think you will need to charge your car with 200+ miles quickly, I don't think the extra wall connector charging speed is worth it. On our UMC with 32 Amps continuous charge, the Model charges on the order of 30 miles...
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    Tesla Service Centers

    Thanks. That's what I thought the situation might be these days. Still, I occasionally read people raving about Ranger service. But I have the impression those are the exceptions.
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    Model 3 reservation page screen shot

    Blue here, too. Sounds like it is standard. I like the blue, though.
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    Tesla Service Centers

    What do people do for service if they live 100 more more miles from a service center? Does Tesla come out at pick the cars up, or doesn't one have to plan on day-long commitments to take the car in for service? And what about major repairs in that case? (I'm thinking practically about what...
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    Space X - Hiring recommendation

    More power to him, but this is not a SpaceX hiring forum. This is a private site for Tesla fans and drivers.
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    Tesla Could Be Poised For Big Win: FTC To Hear Pros & Cons Of Franchise Laws

    So sad. Norquist should defend economic freedom to contract, not oppose it.
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    New York Times - Wroing again

    He probably confused the cost of autopilot as an option on a new car with the cost of downloading the update.
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    Washington Post: Tesla Model S P90D: A normal person drives the ‘best car’ ever made

    I think by "normal," he means someone who isn't willing to re-think how to drive and fuel their car. They just want to get in and go. Using Superchargers instead of gas stations is about as much a change as they can stand. Now, those of on this message board like to re-think how to drive...
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    WSJ: Tesla’s Stock Ignores the Competition

    @EVNow. That article was not very good. But it wasn't "right wing propaganda." You seem to have confused the WSJ editorial page with their business news. Look: it's not irrational to say a) No USA car startup has succeeded in nearly a century. b) Tesla is a small-volume manufacturer. c) The...
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    WSJ: Tesla’s Stock Ignores the Competition

    I read that, too, and thought it was embarrassing. It didn't address Tesla's exceptional margin on sales compared with other car companies, its technological lead, its second market in battery electricity storage, or the fact that no other BEV straight-up compares to a Tesla. These articles that...
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    Rented an ICE and hated it

    Consumer Reports slammed the 200 as one of the worst cars of 2015, ICE or other. So perhaps not the best comparison with their top-rated car.
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    Wall Street Journal Continues its Crusade against Tesla

    Sorry I wasn't clear. I wasn't talking about their car ratings, which merely favor expensive cars over affordable ones, and insist on rear legroom as a crucial characteristic. Generally, I agree, and value their car ratings. I was criticizing CR in general. And again, why their car rating...
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    Model 3 Electric Motor

    I don't know about weight change, but I've wondered if their vow to use steel may go by the board. They are learning a lot about aluminium and may find as the trade weight, cost, and ease of manufacture to go with what brung 'em.
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    Is the Signature Model X $5K+ discounted

    Is it a fair comparison to include the rear-facing kid seats in the comparison?
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    P90D without ludicrous

    Another con: Cost??
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    California dealers file complaint about the Tesla referral program

    Tesla, like Uber and Airbnb, is doing a nice job of showing how over-regulated we are. Most of us adults are not allowed to be, well, adults, and rent our rooms if we want to our accept a recommendation to buy if we want to. For what its worth, it sounds like the dealers have the law on their...
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    Wall Street Journal Continues its Crusade against Tesla

    But seriously, folks, can't you all accept that perhaps CR wasn't really objective? I have a subscription to CR, but rarely find a balanced, evenly thought out article there. It's sad, given their reputation. Even they admit that the P85D is much more expensive than any other car they've...
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    2015 Q2 Discussion thread for Delivery numbers, Earnings Report and Conference Call

    I'm with those who say that the market over-reacted to the change in projections, and under-reacted to Tesla beating the projected loss number and generally being on track for 100% year-on-year growth. Count me puzzled. But the market can be silly sometimes.
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    Politics - Quarantine Thread

    I don't recall, but I imagine Jenkins ante-dates Murdoch's ownership of the WSJ. It has always had a conservative (boo) and sometimes libertarian (I say, yay!) editorial page. Murdoch's effect on the WSJ has been adding lightweight semi-advertising sections. But the paper still offers pretty...
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    WSJ Holman Jenkins Jr: "Tesla is a Compliance Company"

    Jenkins has criticized Tesla Motors before. Doubtless he will again. It's an opinion column, so don't blame WSJ journalism.
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    Well done Greenpeace...

    It's unjust to block the passage of ships.
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    Youxia Ranger X - Chinese knockoff of the Tesla Model S

    Two thoughts on the Chinese rip-off of Model S: 1) Tesla open-sourced its patents. Elon wants other companies to copy their general approach and has repeated said the goal of Tesla is to promote the adoption of electric cars in general. So anyone is free to copy them, and it's no rip-off. 2) I...
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    Chicago to Boston and back in 48 Hours flat

    Isn't the general rule to not drive faster than the speed at which you can recharge (measured in distance of ranged gained per minute)?
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    Tesla in line for $15M in CA tax credits ( Plus 4400 New Jobs)

    Couldn't this be a pointless subsidy for Model 3 production hiring?
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    WSJ: Tesla: Just Another Car Company

    Jenkins is off-base, but that's because he doesn't realize a) Tesla's GAAP losses are due to high investment levels, not cost of sales and b) that Tesla's sales do not depend on subsidies, even though they benefit from them. Tesla has built a straight-up competitor for vehicles in their segment.
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    Resolved - Ecotricity suing Tesla in the UK

    And how could where Ecotricity had installations be a secret? What did the NDA cover?
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    Elon "About to end range anxiety"

    Does anyone know if this press conference is accessible on line?
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    Help Tesla in CT, vote!!!

    I voted "yes."
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    Norway - Wow

    Actually, in purchasing-power-parity terms (i.e., an exchange rate the equalizes the costs of a typical basket of goods), Norwegian GDP per capita is only slightly higher than US GDP per capita. Still, that's something few countries can boast of. Of course, sitting on a lot of oil helps.
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    why SHOULDN'T i buy a model s?

    But seriously: Model S is too expensive. If you wouldn't consider buying a $50K ICE car, then maybe you should think twice about Model S.
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    Ridiculous things you've done to save money?

    Nothing crazy listed so far.
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    Eric PB from Paris, just ordered an MS 60 for UberX and an MX for me

    Will a 60 work for an Uber driver? How many miles/km do you drive in a typical day?
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    Contemplating Model S... anyone ordered the 60KWh?

    A MS60 was one of the first cars to go coast-to-coast in the US on the SuperCharger network. The SuperCharger network is generally laid out to work well for 60s. Reports are that 60 range is holding up well.
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    Elon’s Élan - Slate.com article

    Gross could have at least mentioned that besides being scarce, the Tesla cars have been EXCELLENT!!! Fisker cars were scarce, too, but excellent? Not so much. And therein lies the heart of the tale.
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    Gigafactory and Texas direct sales

    If I understand the plan, they are backing two sites to try to avoid getting caught in a regulatory swamp in a sole-site selection.
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    Tesla Spec Commercial... the Saddest Nozzle

    It's more a funny anti-gasoline video than a Tesla ad. Tesla cars have way, way more going for them than just the fact that they don't use gas. But the video is creative and funny.
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    Why I am invested in Tesla Motors

    I agree with uselesslogin and green1 on essential points. Tesla has unique advantages and a business model that is working. I am long TSLA for those reasons. Questions, however: 1) Can Tesla scale up its advantages in battery tech to make the Gigafactory achieve a cost revolution? I would...
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    My Tesla Story - and why a Model S is less expensive than a Honda Odyssey

    In my state, the price of gas isn't much higher now than it was in 2006, and it's been floating up and down around that point. Oil prices are like all prices, they are affected by both supply and demand. Fracking in the US hasn't driven down oil prices so far, but that's because it's world-wide...
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    My Tesla Story - and why a Model S is less expensive than a Honda Odyssey

    A couple questions: The spreadsheet seems to be assuming electricity cost of recharging at $0.12 per kWh. That is very low for California, New York, and many other places Tesla buyers live, isn't it? And it assumes gas retail prices will rise over 8 years. Why is that? Gas prices are not on...
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    Tesla sued under Wisconsin Lemon Law

    +1 Todd Burch. But to add: also, Model S is less likely to burn than the typical ICE.
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    Supercharger - Guilderland, NY

    I just passed by Colonie Center on Wolf Road in Albany (well, Colonie, NY, literally) and saw the superchargers under construction. (Sorry, no pix.) They have the stalls in but it looks like nothing is wired yet. I am worried about the location, however. It's in a prominent, very popular part...
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    Elon Musk in Mondays at the Mission

    Great interview questions! Not your ordinary Elon interview.
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    Supercharging for Model E?

    Model E has not been announced. So nothing has been promised about it. Tesla has given every indication that the Supercharger network will keep growing. Since Superchargers are one big distinctive benefit of owning a Tesla compared with all other electric cars, it stands to reason that Model E...