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    WARNING: I rear-ended someone today while using Auto Pilot in my brand new P90D!

    This squares with what the Service Manager told me. At the time of the event, TACC was functioning correctly. Had my distance been set higher than two, he said I'd likely have avoided the collision (i literally needed an extra foot). Extrapolating from this, it seems obvious that depending...
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    WARNING: I rear-ended someone today while using Auto Pilot in my brand new P90D!

    New Embarrassing (to me) Information from the logs I received a phone call an hour ago from my Tesla Service manager who told me the following: My car had been traveling at approximately 40 MPH when it engaged the AEB. He told me that the engineers determined that the car in front of must have...
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    WARNING: I rear-ended someone today while using Auto Pilot in my brand new P90D!

    Sorry, but at this stage i can't even begin to remember how soon before the accident any car (s) swiched lanes in front of me. At this stage it would be fruitless to speculate on anything based on my recollections of the event. I have asked the Service Manager for any data from the logs that...
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    WARNING: I rear-ended someone today while using Auto Pilot in my brand new P90D!

    i want to reiterate here that i tried my damndest to stop the car. As i've repeated numerous times on this thread (and you can choose to believe me or not) the system had been working flawlessly, and according to TM i didn't disconnect AP or TACC inadvertantly. When i saw a collison was...
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    WARNING: I rear-ended someone today while using Auto Pilot in my brand new P90D!

    i do want to reiterate how frustating it was to speak to TM service manager. There was no curiosity on his part as to what may have gone wrong. To be honest, he was kind of a prick. He kept referring to "our car," as in "our car" performed like it was supposed to. I reminded him the car belonged...
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    WARNING: I rear-ended someone today while using Auto Pilot in my brand new P90D!

    the biggest frustration i had with Tesla's service manager, besides his repeating over-and-over that i bore all responsibility for the accident (i never once claimed otherwise and at one point i asked him not to keep saying it), was his unwillingness to speculate why, in theory, the car...
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    WARNING: I rear-ended someone today while using Auto Pilot in my brand new P90D!

    Log Results The service manager at Tesla informed me that the engineers who analyzed the logs from my car found no anomaly: the TACC performed as designed. The system triggered the emergency alarm when the collision was imminent, and the driver (me) applied the brakes after approximately one...
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    WARNING: I rear-ended someone today while using Auto Pilot in my brand new P90D!

    Still waiting for the information from Tesla concerning the "accident" (and I do consider it an "accident" because I certainly didn't hit the poor schmuck ahead of me on purpose). But please permit me to add a little color commentary to the unfortunate event: A typical commute to Chicago on...
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    WARNING: I rear-ended someone today while using Auto Pilot in my brand new P90D!

    I spoke with my local service manager about ten minutes ago who told me, "the engineers" were still analyzing the logs. Sorry if some people think my warning was irresponsible or rash , or an attempt to extort money from Tesla or to "hide a ding" from my geriatric father (ah, if only i were so...
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    WARNING: I rear-ended someone today while using Auto Pilot in my brand new P90D!

    I appreciate all the kind comments and posts. I don't take personally any critique of my catlike reflexes or of my wanton disregard for caution. And even though I'm certain I overestimate most of my abilities, I'm fairly certain I fall within the norm (or slightly below the norm in terms of...
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    WARNING: I rear-ended someone today while using Auto Pilot in my brand new P90D!

    i'm embarassed to admit that i largely ignored the AP warnings in the manual as mere legalese. My DS asked me where i wanted to set the distance between cars. I said "2." He gave me no warnings or cautions (i don't blame him). I'm sure my first experiences with AP were similar to everyone else...
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    WARNING: I rear-ended someone today while using Auto Pilot in my brand new P90D!

    i see your point. I think i was trying to say that i couldn't do anything ONCE i realized the car wouldn't stop. If i had used more caution (and more distance/time), it sounds probable I'd have avoided the accident. Had i had read something like this string (i haven't perused this site since...
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    WARNING: I rear-ended someone today while using Auto Pilot in my brand new P90D!

    This is sage advice. It was definitely a bad idea to set my distance at 2 for highway driving. I was too cavalier, too starstruck and trusting of the technology. It simply never ocurred to me that the car would fail to stop. That was foolish.
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    WARNING: I rear-ended someone today while using Auto Pilot in my brand new P90D!

    Thanks. I completely agree. I initially hesitated to even post about my accident, but I felt kind of a moral duty. Hopefully, if there is a legitimate problem, it can be fixed, and I can post only about how much I love my P90D.
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    WARNING: I rear-ended someone today while using Auto Pilot in my brand new P90D!

    "Failure to reduce speed/accident"
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    WARNING: I rear-ended someone today while using Auto Pilot in my brand new P90D!

    Yes! the icon turned red and the car made a horrible sound. I asked the technician at Tesla why the collision avoidance system wouldn't have kicked-in, and he promised to have results within the next 48 hours. I hope I can count on the company to be forthright if they can uncover the problem.
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    WARNING: I rear-ended someone today while using Auto Pilot in my brand new P90D!

    bhzmark, at the time it didn't seem to be the case, but I can't be 100% sure. The beating I'm taking on this forum has made me doubt myself a bit. i was using 7.1. Tesla told me they will have analysis of the logs within the next 48 hours.
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    WARNING: I rear-ended someone today while using Auto Pilot in my brand new P90D!

    I agree with this statement. I also wish I had set a greater distance (time) between cars. The only thing that people don't seem to understand, however, is that I felt I was being vigilant. I was paying attention, my car did slow down, and it gave no indication of any impending problem. I must...
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    WARNING: I rear-ended someone today while using Auto Pilot in my brand new P90D!

    Thanks Electrifan. I just spoke with a nice gentleman at Tesla who said it will take about 24 hours for the engineers to analyze the logs and they should be able to tell me exactly what happened.
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    WARNING: I rear-ended someone today while using Auto Pilot in my brand new P90D!

    Isn't this forum just the place to air a potential problem? The accident was my fault and I'm not looking for any sympathy, and I will be happy to share Tesla's conclusions from my log. If I can help another stupid, irresponsible driver like myself to avoid a collision, I've done a good turn.
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    WARNING: I rear-ended someone today while using Auto Pilot in my brand new P90D!

    I had collision warning set on "normal." I have always used the 2 car length (as recommended to me by my DS so other cars wouldn't encroach). I will definitely change these settings going forward. But as I've been spouting in my previous posts, the car in front of me stopped gradually (not...
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    WARNING: I rear-ended someone today while using Auto Pilot in my brand new P90D!

    Again, I take FULL RESPONSIBILITY for the collision!!! I have no problem paying for all the damage even if Tesla discovers there was a glitch in the system. And maybe I'm delusional about my reflexes and driving ability and I've been profoundly lucky never having been in an accident in my life...
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    Reported autopilot accident

    I think what's most disturbing is that I was following the very car I struck for a few minutes, and everything was working normally. There was no indication of anything wrong. AP was engaged but it just stopped working.
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    WARNING: I rear-ended someone today while using Auto Pilot in my brand new P90D!

    As I stated in the previous thread, why didn't Automatic Emergency Braking kick in? I am wondering the same thing. Also, I'm not trying to shirk responsibility, but if the car stops at a two car distance twenty times in a row, and on the twenty-first time it doesn't, you won't have enough time...
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    WARNING: I rear-ended someone today while using Auto Pilot in my brand new P90D!

    Green1, I am certainly not trying to shirk responsibility. I accept it. But I wonder if you have used the AP feature yet. If you don't trust it, you can't use it at all. The car brakes for you (mine was set at a two car distance so other cars don't come into my lane). It had been working...
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    WARNING: I rear-ended someone today while using Auto Pilot in my brand new P90D!

    I took delivery of my new car last weekend (trading in my model 85 from 2013) and downloaded Firmware 7.1 two days ago. I had used autopilot for a few days with Firmware 7.0 and found it wonderful (astounding). Today was the first day I tried it using 7.0. At about 8:30 AM this morning on I90...
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    Reported autopilot accident

    I want to mention a few things about my collision this morning: I love AP so much, I'm almost hoping that I did something wrong! As I mentioned in my post, when my car picked up the scent of the second car, it caught up to it, and followed it normally for a while. There was nothing out of the...
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    Reported autopilot accident

    Warning: I got into a collision this morning while using Autopilot! I took delivery of my new P90D last weekend (trading in my model 85 from 2013) and downloaded Firmware 7.1 two days ago. I had used autopilot for a few days with Firmware 7.0 and found it wonderful (astounding). Today was the...
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    WARNING: I rear-ended someone today while using Auto Pilot in my brand new P90D!

    I took delivery of my new P90D last weekend (trading in my model 85 from 2013) and downloaded Firmware 7.1 two days ago. I had used autopilot for a few days with Firmware 7.0 and found it wonderful (astounding). Today was the first day I tried it using 7.0. At about 8:30 AM this morning on I90...
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    Good snow in Chicago today, can you share your driving experiences in it?

    snow today in chicago Coincidentally, I took the above picture of my MS tonight in the lot where I leave it adjacent to the Metra Station. I had been debating putting on snow tires, but after the car performed FLAWLESSLY on the unplowed side streets, I now see no reason. I might also add...
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    Stalkers

    A couple days ago I posted the following about a Model S stalker: Model S: A Chick Magnate!!
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    Model S: A Chick Magnate!

    Dear Teslamotorsclub Forum, The following story is true. I’m willing to swear, in fact, on everything I hold sacred: my Model S, the newly released MS iPhone app, my retirement savings (87% in TSLA stock), and the success of SpaceX’s future expedition to Mars. I still can’t believe something...
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    Trade-In Partnership

    I just sold a 2008 Porsche C4 to CarMax. KBB trade-in value was around $48,000, the local Porsche dealership offered me $32,000, AutoNation $40,000, CarMax $44,000! Go CarMax!
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    How to finance with PenFed quickly without going insane

    I received my PenFed check via UPS today for $70,000 at 1.49% (60 months) after having received "Conditional Approval" almost two weeks ago. I've had to make about fifteen phone calls to push things along. The folks at PenFed told me they've been hampered by computer issues and their loan...
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    Things you may not have discovered about your Model S?!

    Bob P: Please send pics of the EZ pass placement. This would be very helpful. Thanks!
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    Why Tesla electric vehicles are so great

    Fascinating article, almost counter-intuitive. I had no idea that one of the keys to Tesla's success is their use of the humble 18650 laptop battery rather than specially designed, "automotive" lithium batteries.
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    Firmware 4.2

    Fiksegts, I know this is off-topic, but how does the MS compare to the souped-up ICE's in your stable?
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    Financing options

    I've been conditionally approved for a PenFed loan after 48 hours. Previously, I went on the Navy Fed site and found I was ineligible. They have a "Membership Wizard" with a series of questions about any (even tenuous) Navy, Coast Guard or DOD affiliation. I had none so the message read I was...
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    Model S Delivery Dates and Sequencing

    Just received word that my Metallic Blue, 85 kWh, Pano, Tech, Air, Tan Leather, Obeche Gloss MS is in transit to Chicago. For anyone who's interested I'm P# 8,792; VIN 3439. Can't even believe it..
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    Wiki Model S Delivery Update

    Hey BradB, What are your thoughts about snow tires? Will you buy them from Tesla or on your own?