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Old 08-26-2009, 08:17 AM   #21
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Here is how a Euro-spec Elise 2 convex mirror looks on my roadster. I really like it:



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Old 08-26-2009, 09:23 AM   #22
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RoadDad,

Thank you for the answers and clarifications on installs and compatability. Much appreciated.

With our cars coming from the same DNA hopefully we can share info like this more often. It will probably be a while though before a 1000 Roadster owners come up with something the 10s of thousands of smart Lotus owners have not already covered in multiple threads.


Toutizes, so it's just a drivers side mirror? Thanks for posting. It looks very clean. Can you name the store? Maybe they have a website.
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Old 08-26-2009, 01:25 PM   #23
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Toutizes, so it's just a drivers side mirror? Thanks for posting. It looks very clean. Can you name the store? Maybe they have a website.
Yep, just the driver side. I suspect that this is the model they'll put in the Euro-spec roaster too. I think it's only here in the US where we drivers are supposed to be too dumb to not know that things in a convex mirror look further away than they really are. Sigh.

I just went to the closest Lotus dealership to where I was, in Boulogne-Billancourt (close to Paris, France.) I found the dealership on the Lotus web site:

» Find a Dealer

The dealer did not have a web page, as far as I can tell, but I had made sure they had a mirror in stock with a quick phone call.

To get one from the US, maybe the easiest thing would be to find a local lotus dealership. Or call a dealership in the UK.
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Old 08-26-2009, 05:26 PM   #24
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This is my local dealer: Bell & Colvill - Cheap Lotus new cars, Lotus used cars, Subaru new cars, Subaru used cars.

As I said up-thread, I'm happy to act as a go-between. PM me if you want me to assist with anything.
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Old 08-27-2009, 02:35 PM   #25
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vfx,

You're very welcome.

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10s of thousands of smart Lotus owners
Ha ha. ^That's funny. There aren't 10s of thousands of smart Lotus owners. There may be 10s of thousands of owners but believe me there aren't that many smart ones .

Just a few other things that I think may be helpful.

The blind spots in these cars can obviously be a problem. If the side mirrors, even the stock ones, are set properly it will minimize, or possibly eliminate, the blind spots. This is how I set my mirrors for all of my cars. It has been particularly helpful in the Lotus. I have to get help adjusting the passenger side mirror on the Elise but can do the driver's side alone.

Set your rear view mirror as you normally would. Then, lean your head all the way to the left so it touches the driver's window. From that position, set your left side view mirror so you can see just the back corner of your car. Now lean the same distance the other way with your head between the seats and set your right side view mirror the same way.

You will need to make some slight adjustments to your side-view mirrors to make everything line up perfectly. Pulling up next to a line of parked cars (to simulate another lane of traffic next to you) or when sitting at a traffic light is a good way to do that.

The goal is to first see the cars behind you in the rear view mirror. As they pass you, as soon as the car is disappearing from the rear view mirror it should appearing in the side view mirror. As the passing car is disappearing from your side mirror it should be appearing in your peripheral vision.

As you pass another car, as soon as it is disappearing from your peripheral vision it should be appearing in the side mirror. As it is disappearing from the side mirror it should be appearing in the rear view mirror.

It will be a little disconcerting at first to drive with the side mirrors adjusted this way but once you get used to it (again, give it about one week) you may wonder why you haven't been driving this way all along.

One other note on this is that backing up (as into a parking space where you will want to see where the lines are, etc.) becomes a little side to side dance in the driver's seat so you can see the sides of the car but in reality the increased safety on the road is well worth it.


EDIT: FWIW, if you want a Lotus dealer to order parts here in the US, April at Fox Valley Motorcars is the person to call. Great service and great pricing. Fox Valley Motorcars / Lamborghini Chicago - Disclaimer: I do not own, work for, have any affiliation with FVMC (other than using them for parts extensively) and haven't even met anyone who works there in person. I've only had phone dealings with them but haven't found a better Lotus dealership with which to work.

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FYI: Mirror adjustment thread: How do you adjust your side mirrors?
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Ah, Doug beat me to it, as usual. I've been an advocate of proper mirror adjustment since I learned about it six years back. I have the instructions on my site - and use this method on all cars.

If you feel the need for a convex driver-side mirror, then you just don't have the mirrors adjusted properly. In fact, the way I discovered this, was after buying the multivex for my EV. I tried it, and hated it. Did some research (yeah, wrong order) and discovered how to properly adjust my mirrors. I'd say a good 98% of the population still insists on being able to see the side of their car in the side mirrors. :sigh:
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Old 08-27-2009, 06:44 PM   #28
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Sorry guys
How could you know?


As to keeping mirrors adjusted I'm for it but I don't like not seeing a bit of the car from a neutral position to know distance and that the mirror has not been bumped and I'm not looking at some incorrect view.

But even more than that, the wife and I have to readjust all three mirrors when we swap the drivers seat. I'd rather change the mirrors rather than go though the rigamarole of setup every time we want to get a soda. (Yes, we use any excuse to drive the car.)
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The multivex mirrors are amazing once you get used to them. I applied mine almost 5 years ago, and they're holding up just fine. VFX: The pictures you posted of the Elise with the MV mirrors applied.......it looks like the double sided foam tape used may have been too thick. Mine do not stick out that much. Also recommended is some black silicone or RTV to be applied on the top/sides of the mirror. You really don't notice the mirrors that much unless you're actually trying to notice that they aren't original equipment.

Are the Tesla mirrors the same as the Elise mirrors ??

Another problem MOST people are having is GETTING the mirrors in the first place. I MAY have the solution to that....stay tuned or PM me for details.
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