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    I like this addition the forum. The formatting looks very familiar. Is it powered by MediaWiki?
    I noticed this is different from the embedded Wiki Post used in the Model S First Drive Reviews post. Is this format going to replace that or are we keeping both? I'm guessing this implementation can't be intertwined with the regular forum posts like the other one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by doug View Post
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    Looks perfect, easy to handle from mobile platforms, well iPad anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by loganss View Post
    I like this addition the forum. The formatting looks very familiar. Is it powered by MediaWiki?
    I spent a lot of time researching, installing, and testing various wiki solutions for the forum on a dev server. I decided on VaultWiki. Implementation wise it's rather different from MediaWiki. There exist several hacks to make a bridge to MediaWiki, but they were rather cumbersome. There are also wiki products that require a separate login, and those were clearly a no-go. I like VaultWiki because the wiki is stored essentially like a forum, the comments are basically a thread, and the editor uses the basic BBcodes seasoned forum users should be familiar with. There are also a few special BBcodes that only work in the wiki page.

    This is a Lite version of the software. The full version costs money, but does have some nice additional features. If this wiki gets good usage, then we'll spring for the full version.

    Quote Originally Posted by loganss View Post
    I noticed this is different from the embedded Wiki Post used in the Model S First Drive Reviews post. Is this format going to replace that or are we keeping both? I'm guessing this implementation can't be intertwined with the regular forum posts like the other one.
    We'll try to keep both. The wiki-post thing is more of a hack. Basically a rework of the existing editpost.php to allow multiple users access to the edit feature. I have't seen any serious bugs yet, but it hasn't been really tested on a large scale. It does have a kind of version history, but that's only available to admins.

    So I think this Wiki and the smaller wiki posts both have their appropriate places. For example, I think the wiki posts are more for thread summaries and updating changing info (like the highest Model X reservation number, etc). I see these Wiki Pages as more for references (e.g., history, how-to guides, FAQs, etc) and less about the discussion, though the discussion is still there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by doug View Post
    ...This is a Lite version of the software. The full version costs money, but does have some nice additional features. If this wiki gets good usage, then we'll spring for the full version...
    Doug, speaking of wiki and money, has there ever been a Wikipedia/Jimmy-Wales-ish fundraising drive for TMC? Don't know anything about TMC's funding, but, would like to contribute my bit for such a great site...
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    Quote Originally Posted by doug View Post
    I spent a lot of time researching, installing, and testing various wiki solutions for the forum on a dev server. I decided on VaultWiki. Implementation wise it's rather different from MediaWiki. There exist several hacks to make a bridge to MediaWiki, but they were rather cumbersome. There are also wiki products that require a separate login, and those were clearly a no-go. I like VaultWiki because the wiki is stored essentially like a forum, the comments are basically a thread, and the editor uses the basic BBcodes seasoned forum users should be familiar with. There are also a few special BBcodes that only work in the wiki page.
    Thanks for the quick reply and implementing this. I've never used VaultWiki before. All these wikis start running together to me and it's hard for me to remember which is which. Might've been the BBCodes integration that made me think I've used it before.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gg_wants_a_tesla View Post
    Doug, speaking of wiki and money, has there ever been a Wikipedia/Jimmy-Wales-ish fundraising drive for TMC? Don't know anything about TMC's funding, but, would like to contribute my bit for such a great site...
    +1 here.

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    Love the addition of a wiki. It provides a great opportunity to condense information that otherwise flows in the forums and needs to be crosschecked against future overrides and corrections.
    However, having stated I love that we can collaborate on a wiki, I want to posit a question I also posted on the page: why not place the same dedication to maintain wikipedia pages? Seems the whole world would benefit more from the attention to detail.
    Some pages may be better off here (reservation tally + projection summaries; drivers/clubs/meetups pages etc) but maybe we can encourage people to keep pages about cars and company updated on widely-consumed media? Just a thought.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EchoDelta View Post
    Love the addition of a wiki. It provides a great opportunity to condense information that otherwise flows in the forums and needs to be crosschecked against future overrides and corrections.
    However, having stated I love that we can collaborate on a wiki, I want to posit a question I also posted on the page: why not place the same dedication to maintain wikipedia pages? Seems the whole world would benefit more from the attention to detail.
    Some pages may be better off here (reservation tally + projection summaries; drivers/clubs/meetups pages etc) but maybe we can encourage people to keep pages about cars and company updated on widely-consumed media? Just a thought.
    There are plenty of interest specific wikis out there. Not everyone has to be Wikipedia. I'd think that other than Tesla's own website, we're a primary source for info on the company and its cars. The problem is a lot of that info is buried in threads and hard for both new and old folks to find. Would be nice to set this space as a reference section of the library with pointers to specific posts in threads for further reading. The other thing is place like Wikipedia has certain standards that we wouldn't necessarily want to adhere to. For example, Wikipedia doesn't allow original research, where as our primary value may actually be based on original research (i.e. personal experience).


    Quote Originally Posted by gg_wants_a_tesla View Post
    Doug, speaking of wiki and money, has there ever been a Wikipedia/Jimmy-Wales-ish fundraising drive for TMC? Don't know anything about TMC's funding, but, would like to contribute my bit for such a great site...
    We haven't in the past, but I think it would be nice to setup something for supporting members. Thing is we already give everything away, which I see as a good thing, but that doesn't leave many perks to offer. I suppose we can disable ads and add a "supporting member" badge or something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by doug View Post
    We haven't in the past, but I think it would be nice to setup something for supporting members. Thing is we already give everything away, which I see as a good thing, but that doesn't leave many perks to offer. I suppose we can disable ads and add a "supporting member" badge or something.
    +1 to this doug. I've gotten so much out of this forum, I'd be happy to contribute to operating funds. I'm a member of other forums that do something similar and it works out well.
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