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Talked about in Fisker Karma section:
Originally Posted by Robert.Boston
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I want to know more about this. And of course this happened in TX. It is going to be a lot of work to get to the bottom of this incident. And I am not pleased to see the Karma in yet another PR disaster.
Precisely. If you don't follow the process, the car can sometimes go haywire and throw all kinds of faults. Not saying that has anything to do with a fire, but it's not out of the realm of possibility.
Since the car was brand new and there was the smell of burning plastic it is more likely that the dealer did not prep the car properly prior to delivering the vehicle (i.e not removing packaging/transport material). It is unlikely that burning plastic smell was caused by the computers going haywire.
Well, there are plenty of reports of the battery fans coming on randomly several hours after the car has been parked. Is anyone familiar with the mechanism of battery cooling on the Karma? Also, when the battery is driven to empty, the ICE has been known to over rev and cause damage to internal coupling components between the ICE and generator.
Battery fans come on randomly on several other EV's including the Roadster when parked. This is nothing new to EV's. How many reports are there of couplers getting destroyed (this failure cannot cause a fire either)? More than 1,2,3? Seems like you are blowing this out of proportion.
I can understand that concept of fan behavior being consistent across brands, but my reaction merely echoes the concerns of legitimate Karma owners. The issues regarding the coupling is not the relevant piece of my comment, the ICE over-revving is, and as none of us know precisely how the fire started, I am making supposition on possible causes, ie the ICE is potentially related. The context of the coupling failures simply demonstrates how badly the motor over-revved relative to the generator's ability to handle it.
If I gave you the impression that I wish to blow anything out of proportion, I apologize.
Regardless of exactly why this fire occurred, Tesla and every other EV manufacturer should be worried. My CFO sent me the Autoweek article, and he's clearly thinking "those crazy EVs, see how dangerous they are?" For people who follow the EV industry casually, it will be easy to connect the dots of the Volt "fires", the charging incident in North Carolina (which wasn't really a charging incident, but who reads the Day 2 backpedalling?), and now the graphic image of a $100k car reduce to a smoldering wreck.
This isn't just a PR disaster for Fisker; unless properly managed by the industry, it has the potential of hardening anti-EVs among the Faux News crowd -- which may be calling the shots in many corridors of power by November.
This incident just reinforces the fact that TM knows what they are doing since these kinds of things don't happen to their cars. And reinforces the fact that they are so far ahead of any other car manufacturer for implementation of Li-Ion based drivetrains. I would also think that BMW and Audi engineers that read the Karma story know only too well how far they have to go where Merc and Toyota have already sided with TM.
I just hope Coda doesn't have an incident. It would be great to see another CA company make a dent in the ICE market.
While I'm not going to say that the Karma is doomed, as there could be something that is outside the control of the Fiskar process that caused the fire, but regardless, it really appears to be another nail in the coffin as people are already nervous about the tech. I hope Fiskar can control this incident, but wow, what a bummer.
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