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    Quote Originally Posted by tander View Post
    Someone with a Roadster in Portland is renting it via a new carshare program called Getaround---$50 p/hr and if you pickup a flyer you can get $25 off. $25 in a Roadster for an hour sounds pretty good, but then again free Bonnie might be better.
    The Getaround car is owned by Getaround itself... the guy who manages the rentals locally is really easy to work with.
    Definitely worth the $50/hour, and $25 an hour would make it sweet.
    And you get to drive it.
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    I mentioned this in the other thread, which means it's lost in the noise now.

    Given Tesla's iterations, I think they're in need of a way to communicate changes in progress or changes expected. For example, is anyone getting the car now made aware of the coming changes? If I'm sitting in a display model in a store, how do I know if it matches what I'd be getting? A sheet of paper or some such detailing what's changed with each "release" of the car would be useful. When a reviewer does a long term review and looks at the interior in detail, that same piece of paper can show them what's being addressed so they don't go off ranting about something being addressed.

    The most significant part for me is I want to know what I'm getting when I have to lock down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ckessel View Post
    I mentioned this in the other thread, which means it's lost in the noise now.

    Given Tesla's iterations, I think they're in need of a way to communicate changes in progress or changes expected. For example, is anyone getting the car now made aware of the coming changes? If I'm sitting in a display model in a store, how do I know if it matches what I'd be getting? A sheet of paper or some such detailing what's changed with each "release" of the car would be useful. When a reviewer does a long term review and looks at the interior in detail, that same piece of paper can show them what's being addressed so they don't go off ranting about something being addressed.

    The most significant part for me is I want to know what I'm getting when I have to lock down.
    You're right on... it's tough as nails to know exactly what you're gonna get.
    Even recent reviews posted are using 2-year-old photos and stock images from Tesla Motors' web site. The showroom demo cars are much closer, but still not final.
    Jumping into a 1.0 of anything is risky, and even more so for 5- or 6-figures of cash.
    It's going to be a personal decision for each one of us, how much we're willing to go on faith that the car will delight us as we expect.

    I've got faith enough. I'd drive out of the showroom with VIN#50 if they'd sell it to me. Well, if it had the pano roof...
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    Quote Originally Posted by ckessel View Post
    Given Tesla's iterations, I think they're in need of a way to communicate changes in progress or changes expected. For example, is anyone getting the car now made aware of the coming changes?
    I agree wholeheartedly to this, whether the communication is strictly via email to reservation holders past the configuration phase, or more broadly posted to the Tesla blog.

    However, since my delivery was quoted for October, perhaps I shouldn't be made aware of any minor nits that are in the process of being sorted out prior to that delivery date as they aren't a major change to whatever the spec was on the date the agreement was signed?

    Unfortunately I don't think they are tracking the date of each individual's agreement signing with the timing of tweaking various components of the vehicle being delivered to the end of the assembly line.

    Is that a bad thing? Probably not.

    How often do you ask the staff at a fine restaurant for up-to-the-minute updates on the status of your order, to ensure that ingredients / cooking style / presentation hasn't changed?

    If you answered "more frequently than once per ice age", perhaps Tesla needs to add a "keep me up to date on ever niggling little detail" option on your online profile.

    Otherwise, I'd say to not complain about the meal until it is delivered to your table!

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    Quote Originally Posted by AndyM View Post
    Even recent reviews posted are using 2-year-old photos
    There's a lesson to learn out of this one.

    For future prototype photos -- I'm looking at you X and Bluestar -- they should add a very large, clear date-stamped watermark to the image. That way, when a reputable publication uses the image 2-3 years later the public will embarrass them in the comments and hopefully shame them into getting current with their photo usage.
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    Ok, late answer, but blame that on the time difference

    A personal thank you to George for clearing that up.

    Given the time until the Euro S will be out, I am sure there will be quite a few more "optimizations" shall we say.
    Again, great news.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bonnie1194 View Post
    Especially a car where every time, every single frickin' time, when you press the accelerator, the hand of God swoops down and gives you an extra boost.
    All we need now is the other hand to make lifting up on that accelerator deliver the same quantity of regen that Roadster has, instead of the anemic regen the test drive cars have. At least for the 85 kWh cars, which shouldn't have issues with maximum C factor. Hey, make it a user customizable mode if you're scared it'll turn EV newbies off.

    Yeah, I'm a curmudgeon today, sorry.

    In a related item, I stopped by the local Tesla store on my way home this evening. VIN 48 was there. The interior on that car is a mixed bag. The ambiance lighting in the doors is very cool, and the arm rest is comfortable. Still needs a door pocket, of course. The center mirror with its thin chrome frame was elegant - really. However, the perforated plastic cover (for microphone/speaker?) in the headliner over that elegant mirror was really cheap looking and had undulating gaps. The bar in the pano roof didn't have the cover, and it was truly amazing how much better that is than what is in the test drive cars. I so much want the pano roof to be like this Beta car instead of the test drive RC cars. I still feel like the dashboard has too much cheap looking chrome trim for a "premium" vehicle. My end take was that given the right attention to fit and some material changes, the interior could be passable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ckessel View Post
    If I'm sitting in a display model in a store, how do I know if it matches what I'd be getting? A sheet of paper or some such detailing what's changed with each "release" of the car would be useful. When a reviewer does a long term review and looks at the interior in detail, that same piece of paper can show them what's being addressed so they don't go off ranting about something being addressed.

    The most significant part for me is I want to know what I'm getting when I have to lock down.
    You cannot both want Tesla to refine the car as fast as possible and OTOH know the result in 3 months advance. No way. I just want to point out that contradiction.

    Now for your sheet of paper, that sounds like release notes for Tesla Model S V1.0, iteration 31 - describing the differences to iteration 30. Problem is, you will not know how many iterations are made before your car is built and what gets changed in these. While most people would be happy if features are added at no additional cost, all the whining started when Tesla removed a feature they were not happy with to improve it. I don't know how that would read in that piece of paper? Please come up with a suggestion that would not upset customers and/or car journalists.

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    Let's not forget that just about all car manufacturers make running changes even in the same model year (I remember when some mk5 jettas began losing the headlight washers out the blue).

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    Quote Originally Posted by bonnie1194 View Post
    I fully intend to contact both the Portland and Seattle reservation holders. To meet over coffee. For RIDES.
    For sure. If I head to CA... I'd do the same.

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