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    I see, thanks for the clarification. Makes sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrComputer View Post
    Here's a shot of the window sticker.
    That looks real.
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    I couldn't get the QR code to lead to any specific car. The QR code is scannable, but the fuel economy website states that they could not find a vehicle for that code, so I wonder if it's in development or just a general direction to the fuel economy website.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian H View Post
    I still think there's something badly awry with the EPA ratings. 88 city, 90 highway? I don't think so. City mileage is going to be quite a bit higher for any BEV with regen. I think they blew/fudged it.
    The Model S has three problems that contribute to this result:

    1. It is very heavy at 2108 kg.
    2. Regen is limited to 60 kW.
    3. Regen is fixed at 0.15 g max and cannot be increased by applying the brake, even when not power limited.

    So these three together affect the city rating negatively on the test cycle. If, however, you drive defensively and anticipate stops so that you never use friction brakes above 10 km/h, you will do MUCH better than the city rating.

    On the other side of the coin, the low drag coefficient helps the highway cycle which does not include as many stops.

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    Originally Posted by Brian H
    I still think there's something badly awry with the EPA ratings. 88 city, 90 highway? I don't think so. City mileage is going to be quite a bit higher for any BEV with regen. I think they blew/fudged it.







    Quote Originally Posted by J in MN View Post
    The Model S has three problems that contribute to this result:

    1. It is very heavy at 2108 kg.
    2. Regen is limited to 60 kW.
    3. Regen is fixed at 0.15 g max and cannot be increased by applying the brake, even when not power limited.
    Stop and go energy use is mostly about how fast you accelerate. Regeneration is better than throwing all the kinetic energy away as heat the way friction brake-only cars do, but regeneration only captures a portion of the kinetic energy. Increasing the regeneration rate is unlikely to increase range because the battery can only take so much charge without degradation.

    Ideally you don't want to use either regeneration or friction braking when you slow or stop because then all the kinetic energy (other than bearing, tire, and aerodynamic friction which happen anyway) is used for forward motion. The modern way of driving: roar up to the speed limit, then jam on the brakes at the last minute is extremely inefficient and doesn't get you where you're going any faster.
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    The topic starter requested:

    Please keep commentary to a minimum. Another option would be for TMC to post a banner on the Model S page with last delivery (why not throw in the finalize data too!)
    This thread is already getting many posts not related to the deliveries that it will probably be snowed under.

    Could we please keep this topic to delivery updates only?
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    So was this car going out for delivery imminently? My understanding was that production was at stand still currently while they iron things out, maybe not a stand still, just a crawl?

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    Quote Originally Posted by J in MN View Post
    Regen is fixed at 0.15 g max
    What's the source for this? Is it something Tesla said, something you measured in a test drive, or some calculation based on speed, weight, and regen power consumption? Just curious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tander View Post
    So was this car going out for delivery imminently? My understanding was that production was at stand still currently while they iron things out, maybe not a stand still, just a crawl?
    I thought they upped production to 10 per week last week (or was it the week before?)
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    Quote Originally Posted by smorgasbord View Post
    What's the source for this?
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