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    20 EV parking bays, all ICEd

    The Hong Kong Government is aggressively deploying EV charging stations in Government and Private car parks around Hong Kong. Target was 1,000 stations by the end of June, and looks like they have hit it. The stations in Government car parks are 220V 13A sockets on the walls, and most car parks are getting about 20 charging bays. The bays are marked "EV Charging".

    To put that in perspective, that is 4 charging points per EV on the road, today. A case of 'if you build it, they will come'?

    Today, I went to the Cheung Sha Wan Government building car park, to have a look. Nice setup, but all 20 bays had ICE cars parked in them.

    Given the number of EVs in Hong Kong, I have mixed thoughts about this. If the bays were restricted to just EV parking+charging, then most likely there would be on average 19-to-20 bays sitting empty all day long. In a few years time, who know, but today that would be the reality. But, allowing ICE vehicles to park there means the bays are next to useless, as EVs can't get near them.

    Thoughts?

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    Does everybody back into their parking spots in Hong Kong?

    Not that it has anything to do with the problem, but it is a bit odd...

    2nd thought -- is this a valet only parking lot? IE: maybe the valets are using those spots and would move the ICE if an EV came along.
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    Backing into parking spots is how people are taught to park in Japan, and probably HK as well. It's considered safer since you don't have to reverse into traffic (often with narrow lanes) as you leave. I have a number of Japanese friends over here in the States that still back into these huge spots at the grocery store.

    In terms of usage, I think 2 of those 20 spots should be marked and enforced as EV only. As the numbers of EVs on the road increases, the percentage of those charging spots that are enforced as EV only should increase. Basically, it's great that the infrastructure in now in place, but the enforcement should scale with need. No point in having 20 empty parking spots when parking is at a premium.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jason S View Post
    Does everybody back into their parking spots in Hong Kong?

    Not that it has anything to do with the problem, but it is a bit odd...

    2nd thought -- is this a valet only parking lot? IE: maybe the valets are using those spots and would move the ICE if an EV came along.
    Yep, backing in is normal. Not really safety, just the convention here.

    These are not valet car parks. DIY parking
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    Ah, then they are simply risking a ticket.

    What is the penalty for getting caught in one of those parking spaces?
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    Quote Originally Posted by doug View Post
    Backing into parking spots is how people are taught to park in Japan, and probably HK as well. It's considered safer since you don't have to reverse into traffic (often with narrow lanes) as you leave. I have a number of Japanese friends over here in the States that still back into these huge spots at the grocery store.
    For me, it is a matter of not getting into something you can't get out of later. Reversing in is generally harder than driving out forwards, so better to get that over and done with. Then, when you come back and find your neighbor has parked to make it harder for you, you have the 'forward' advantage.

    The parking spots here are generally damn tight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jason S View Post
    Ah, then they are simply risking a ticket.

    What is the penalty for getting caught in one of those parking spaces?
    Seems to be the car park staff don't care. It is private property, so no 'ticket' as such, but I guess they can clamp your car and charge you to release.

    I recently saw a car in an airport handicapped parking bay here. It had two warning notices (each dated two days apart) then a clamped notice, on the windshield. A total of 5 days parked in the handicapped spot before clamped.
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    You have no solution to your problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vfx View Post
    You have no solution to your problem.
    Rock - me - hard place.

    What did you guys do in California? Any huge roll outs like this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jason S View Post
    Does everybody back into their parking spots in Hong Kong?

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    At our local hospital in Santa Barbara, you will be sited if you back in. They want you in there nose first.

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