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    A great way to do the localization for Model S. Maple for the Canadians. Pinewood in Mediterranean countries. Chico Zapote for the Mexicans. Deutsche Eiche for the hard boiled Germans. Peuplier pour les francais.

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    Interesting wood grain...
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    Great idea, VolkerP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ddruz View Post
    While it is true that koa "can" theoretically be harvested in a sustainable way, it currently is not a sustainable hardwood. Precious little koa remains in the islands. Most koa came from the Big Island of Hawaii and that's where what is left is obtained. Having researched sustainable koa forestry extensively last year and making a sizable investment therein my understanding is that the current law only permits koa trees that have died a natural death to be harvested. However, the price of the wood is so astronomically high that it is very frequently illegally harvested--poached--and thus the few live trees still standing are being killed bit by bit.

    There are several privately funded efforts under way to reforrest parts of the Big Island with sustainably harvested koa. These efforts look quite promising and have the backing of the State and many private investors but it will be 15 to 20 years before the first of these sustainable trees is ready for harvest. In the meantime the current koa coming to market is not honestly sustainably obtained.

    Hawaiian koa grows only in Hawaii and is the most beautiful wood I personally have ever seen. The grain, color, semi-translucent depth and magical shimmer are very special. There is an almost reverential feeling in many people when seeing it, myself included. If Tesla did offer koa it should guarantee that their koa is obtained truly only from naturally dead trees or they would be encouraging the illegal poaching and decimation of the remaining koa trees. The price of koa compared to other woods would be exceedingly more expensive too.
    ddruz, thanks for the insights. I agree, koa is the most beautiful wood. I visited the Harbor Gallery on the Big Island a few years ago and was just blown away by the beauty and depth of the wood in the furniture and wood sculptures on display there. Plus by the outrages prices, but now understand why.

    Hope one day Tesla would consider this wood.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ddruz View Post
    While it is true that koa "can" theoretically be harvested in a sustainable way, it currently is not a sustainable hardwood. Precious little koa remains in the islands. Most koa came from the Big Island of Hawaii and that's where what is left is obtained. Having researched sustainable koa forestry extensively last year and making a sizable investment therein my understanding is that the current law only permits koa trees that have died a natural death to be harvested. However, the price of the wood is so astronomically high that it is very frequently illegally harvested--poached--and thus the few live trees still standing are being killed bit by bit.

    There are several privately funded efforts under way to reforrest parts of the Big Island with sustainably harvested koa. These efforts look quite promising and have the backing of the State and many private investors but it will be 15 to 20 years before the first of these sustainable trees is ready for harvest. In the meantime the current koa coming to market is not honestly sustainably obtained.

    Hawaiian koa grows only in Hawaii and is the most beautiful wood I personally have ever seen. The grain, color, semi-translucent depth and magical shimmer are very special. There is an almost reverential feeling in many people when seeing it, myself included. If Tesla did offer koa it should guarantee that their koa is obtained truly only from naturally dead trees or they would be encouraging the illegal poaching and decimation of the remaining koa trees. The price of koa compared to other woods would be exceedingly more expensive too.
    Quote Originally Posted by mulder1231 View Post
    ddruz, thanks for the insights. I agree, koa is the most beautiful wood. I visited the Harbor Gallery on the Big Island a few years ago and was just blown away by the beauty and depth of the wood in the furniture and wood sculptures on display there. Plus by the outrages prices, but now understand why.

    Hope one day Tesla would consider this wood.
    Hope they don't.....
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    Call me crazy but I don't think wood belongs on/in cars at all. Unless you are carrying it as cargo.

    It just looks weird to me to have wood in an automobile.

    I do however think wood grain vinyl stickers are perfectly acceptable on the side of minivans!

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    Quote Originally Posted by NigelM View Post
    Hope they don't.....
    I said "one day", meaning when it can be harvested in a sustainable way.

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    My friend has an entire house built from Koa. Doors, counter tops floors decks, railings etc. Built 50+ years ago, all from their ranch! Yes very beautiful!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ElSupreme View Post

    It just looks weird to me to have wood in an automobile.

    I do however think wood grain vinyl stickers are perfectly acceptable on the side of minivans!
    Hey. That's my first car you're talking about 1989 Dodge Grand Caravan. White with fake wood side paneling. 0-15mph in 3.9 seconds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dsm363 View Post
    Hey. That's my first car you're talking about 1989 Dodge Grand Caravan. White with fake wood side paneling. 0-15mph in 3.9 seconds.
    To quote a friend of mine, "It may be ugly, but it sure is slow!"

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