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    Refuting Claims of other Manufactures


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    Since when is Hyundai an american car company also?
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    Ghosn said it best: "Every day they don't start is a good day for Tesla". Well, okay he said Nissan, but the point is clear. As long as the other manufacturers don't recognize Tesla as competition, they won't be actively working on any similar products.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jerry33 View Post
    Ghosn said it best: "Every day they don't start is a good day for Tesla". Well, okay he said Nissan, but the point is clear. As long as the other manufacturers don't recognize Tesla as competition, they won't be actively working on any similar products.
    Agreed, sneak attack! But I'd bet that we'll see more of this. I'm guessing here, but couldn't TM make the below claims?

    0. 100% of all vehicles designed and built in USA
    1. Most fuel efficient car company in USA
    2. Highest % of parts designed and manufactured in USA
    3. Lowest carbon footprint factory in USA

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    [QUOTE=Discoducky;156355]I'm guessing here, but couldn't TM make the below claims?[/QUOTE

    0. 100% of all vehicles designed and built in USA ---> This one is certainly valid.

    1. Most fuel efficient car company in USA ---> This one depends on how you measure fuel efficiency. If you use the EPA numbers as a measure...

    2. Highest % of parts designed and manufactured in USA ---> Needs research. Toyota's North American plants have a very high percentage of U.S. parts.

    3. Lowest carbon footprint factory in USA ---> Needs research. Also is this for the plant or per car produced? It's pretty obvious that a factory that makes 200,000 cars is almost certainly going to have a larger carbon footprint than one that makes 20,000. Toyota's plants have zero landfill (which I know isn't the same thing).
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    My letter to Hyundai:
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    A recent press release asserted:

    [top]MOST FUEL-EFFICIENT AUTOMAKER IN AMERICA, HYUNDAI, SAYS LINEUP TO AVERAGE MINIMUM 50 MPG BY 2025

    Leaving aside the loose interpretation of "in America," this statement is demonstrably false. Tesla Motors is the most fuel-efficient automaker in America, with a fleet average 89 MPGe. I know, you're thinking "Tesla Motors is just a little startup!" While that's true, it is a publicly traded corporation with the sole business of making automobiles and automotive power trains, so your categorical statement is simply false and misleading advertising.

    Please correct this on your website or I will bring this false claim to the attention of the states' attorneys general.

    Kind regards,

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    Tesla cars aren't all that American made either. Just think of all those Panasonic cells, Mercedes parts, etc. in fact it is questionable as to whether it will qualify as "made in USA" for the purposes of impoting into Canada (50% content under NAFTA rules).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doug_G View Post
    ...in fact it is questionable as to whether it will qualify as "made in USA" for the purposes of impoting into Canada (50% content under NAFTA rules).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert.Boston View Post
    My letter to Hyundai:
    Lol Robert I like how you handle things. BS needs to be called out!

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    Was this disclaimer on the site last time?

    "America's most fuel-efficient car company claim based on fleetwide model year 2010 manufacturer data from the EPA Light-Duty Automotive Technology, Carbon Dioxide Emissions and Fuel Economy Trends: 1975-2011 Report. 2012 Accent 30 City/40 Hwy. 2012 Elantra 29 City/40 Hwy. 2011 Sonata Hybrid 35 City/40 Hwy. 2012 Veloster M/T 28 City/40 Hwy. EPA Estimates. Actual mileage may vary.."

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