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    USA Today

    - removed crappy link-

    'Three weeks ago, he says, he told the powertrain team that he felt the acceleration from 70 mph to 90 mph was inadequate. When they protested that it couldn't be improved, Musk amped up the gentle persuasion: "Imagine," he told them, that "there was a gun to your head" and the trigger was about to be pulled. "Would you find a way to make it better?"'

    hehe 70-90 is pretty good


    thanks
    V
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    Link seems incorrect. If you have trouble try this:
    Elon Musk's rocket soared; how about his electric Tesla? – USATODAY.com

    By the way, seems like a well researched, well written article.

    *but* here are some nitpicks:
    The California entrepreneur who heads companies at opposite ends of the state...
    I get the point, but Palo Alto/Fremont isn't exactly far northern California, nor is El Segundo at the bottom.

    For sure, the car has lots of features that break new ground in both the luxury and electric car worlds. For instance, the charging unit is built into the car, so owners don't have to have one installed in their garages (although they will want a 240-volt outlet, because the 265-mile version can take up to eight hours to recharge even on that.)...
    That statement seems a bit off. EVs tend to always have some kind of charger onboard, so basically no one installs a "charger" in their garage. An EVSE (safety interconnect) device is typically installed in a garage for any pure EV with a large pack.

    Some LEAF owners just use the portable EVSE in their garage and don't have anything mounted.
    Some Model S owners will opt to have an HPC2 installed in their garage instead of using the portable UMC2.
    (You could charge about twice as fast using the HPC2 compared to the UMC2, assuming you ordered the 2nd charger module in the car, which is automatically included in all Signature Model S.)
    Last edited by TEG; 06-27-2012 at 01:23 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TEG View Post
    EVs tend to always have some kind of charger onboard, so basically no one installs a "charger" in their garage. An EVSE (safety interconnect) device is typically installed in a garage for any pure EV with a large pack.
    Agreed. And it seems Tesla is either propagating this error, or not doing anything to correct it (I've seen it in several articles now). This annoys me more than just a little, as it misinforms the public, and does not help the EV cause.
    Model S, P8244 - waiting for v2.0

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    Quote Originally Posted by J in MN View Post
    Agreed. And it seems Tesla is either propagating this error, or not doing anything to correct it (I've seen it in several articles now). This annoys me more than just a little, as it misinforms the public, and does not help the EV cause.
    I also have seen several articles calling the Nissan Leaf the first modern electric car.

    The world loves to be deceived.


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    http://www.bloomberg.com/video/power...tml?cmpid=yhoo

    another negative twisted news reel

    Roadster owners don't drive???
    Not from most of what I hear

    Just the ones tying to baby their cars right?

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    I drive my roadster every day. It's one year old, has 12,000 miles on it and the standard charge is still between 190 and 194 miles Where is this guy getting his alleged data from?
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    Andy, you should email the "journalist" and let him know your stats. Not sure if it will help, but you never know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zextraterrestrial View Post
    http://www.bloomberg.com/video/power...tml?cmpid=yhoo

    another negative twisted news reel

    Roadster owners don't drive???
    Not from most of what I hear

    Just the ones tying to baby their cars right?
    I just viewed the link. I think he's partially right. But babying the car isn't the answer(IMHO). We don't know about the lifetime of the batteries overall. However Tesla is convinced (and I believe it) that battery longevity in terms of miles will be great. When I get my Model S, I intend to drive it as much as possible. I'm convinced I could drive up to 200kmiles in 8 years (with the 85kW-h pack, if I had the time and desire) without undue battery degradation. For me, the questions are "How much do the batteries degrade over time? Will the batteries die suddenly after 7 or 8 years? Has anyone done any long term testing on the shelf life of this chemistry?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by dmckinstry View Post
    I just viewed the link. I think he's partially right...."
    Did you read the comments?

    The world loves to be deceived.


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    Quote Originally Posted by vfx View Post
    Did you read the comments?
    Not yet.

    I have now, and they don't really change my questions.

    That of course doesn't bother me. If I use it for 8 years and need a new battery after that, it'll probably be worth it to get a new one them.
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