Are the 21" Wheels stopping your Performance upgrade?

The 21" wheels are the only options I could do without. Before pricing came out I thought 10K premium for the performance version was a good deal. Compared to the regular car with leather and air suspension which I was planning on getting anyways, the performance package is a 12K difference . If it was a $15K difference it would make me think a little harder about if I really wanted a "holy *sugar*" quick car vs the regular "holy cow" quick car.

Packages always suck. The base car is awesome as it is and the performance edition was a wonderful surprise to us when it was unveiled last October so I'm not crying over the 21" wheels.

We had a few threads on this and it's been debated pretty fiercely. The responses range from "The lack of credit is a serious issue" to "meh" to "this is totally normal/fine/expected". In some cases, opposing views understand each other even if they don't agree. In other cases, it's been pretty heated.

For me personally, it's the blocking point. For $8500, I'll upgrade to the perf (the cost difference from the base with all items the same). At $12000 it's beyond my price vs. value breakpoint.

Doug_G said:

I'm getting Performance and keeping the 21", but adding a set of 19" for winter use.

Incidentally, I'm probably not going for the "Performance Wheels" but instead keeping the silver ones, because from what I've seen so far they don't look very good on Signature Red. The only car I've seen with the grey wheels was a white, and it looked awesome.

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Agree with Doug, absolutely.

Agreed. White with grey is what I will be getting.

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I'm not against anyone lobbying for a change, but do we really need to discuss this again?

NigelM said:

I'm not against anyone lobbying for a change, but do we really need to discuss this again?

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I agree that the re-hashing of this topic may be annoying to some, but given the discontinuation of the Aero option, the game has changed a bit. There's no intermediary wheel option between the standard 19" and the performance 21". Even though I didn't particularly care for the Aero aesthetic, I perceive that as greater value lost.

I would like to see TM offer the same performance wheel design in a 19" version, as an option for the performance configuration. I like the fan-blade/carbon gray appearance of the 21" wheels, but can't justify the 21" wheels due to my all-season needs. The 21" wheels are a $3500 up charge for standard S cars. That's a hard pill to swallow, essentially throwing away $3500 for a performance configured without 21" wheels. I don't expect a full $3500 worth of credit, but a compromise of some kind would be welcomed with open arms!

jbherman said:

Even though I didn't particularly care for the Aero aesthetic, I perceive that as greater value lost.

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So do I. My hope is that by the time my number comes up there will be an aero wheel replacement--maybe even with a sensible tire size although I am not particularly hopeful about the latter.

NigelM said:

I'm not against anyone lobbying for a change, but do we really need to discuss this again?

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Yes. Nobody is served by stifling the debate.

When was the Aero option discontinued??? I went on Vacation for a week and the model S is on the Street and the Aero is gone! 21' is way too big if your not selling something sticky green or white around Humboldt

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Zextraterrestrial said:

When was the Aero option discontinued??? I went on Vacation for a week and the model S is on the Street and the Aero is gone! 21' is way too big if your not selling something sticky green or white around Humboldt

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First posted here: 320 mile wheels

richkae said:

Yes. Nobody is served by stifling the debate.

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GMAB, I didn't suggest or imply that we should stifle debate. Apart from the fact that the train already left the station, we could easily resurrect one of the previous discussions.

Strawman counterpoint tactic.

Perhaps Bonnie can merge into the original thread(s).

I would prefer 19's but my wife likes the turbine wheels so we're getting silver 21's on our blue Perf. But if there was a 19" turbine option (wasn't someone looking into this? From Lorinser or someone?) then I would go with that. If a 19 turbine comes out as we're wearing out our first set of 21" rubber I might go that route and sell the 21's.

So if you're in an area with a number of other reservation holders, spec the 21's, buy a set of 19's from Tesla for $1k, and then sell the 21's to someone who is getting a non-perf car and wants 21's. Or swap with someone with 19's plus come cash. At least you'll be getting something for the 21's...

Again, packages are common in the industry. In the old days it was to simplify manufacturing. Now w/ computers and JIT assembly line practices it's a way to increase profit margins. Without profit companies go bankrupt. Bottom line is that if this was a really big deal, someone would come into the market to exploit that opening. As yet no one has so it clearly doesn't make that much difference in the grand scheme. So you're going to have to figure out if Performance is worth $12k to you or it isn't.

strider said:

I would prefer 19's but my wife likes the turbine wheels so we're getting silver 21's on our blue Perf. But if there was a 19" turbine option (wasn't someone looking into this? From Lorinser or someone?) then I would go with that.

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I agree. I relayed my desire for a 19" turbine option (silver and/or carbon gray) to my sales rep this morning.

brianman said:

Strawman counterpoint tactic.

Perhaps Bonnie can merge into the original thread(s).

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I agree with you both (brianman & NigelM). (And no one was trying to stifle debate anywhere that I saw. Did I miss something?)

I'd merge, but the problem is the other thread is also a poll -- and I don't want destroy one poll by merging. So I'd prefer to just let this run and I'll merge when the poll here closes.

It would be simpler, in the future, if discussion continued in the original thread.