How have your Experiences with Tesla Motors Europe been?

Iamthecaliflower · May 17, 2012

How have your experiences been with Tesla Motors stores in Europe? I was a bit concerned with my three experiences. Over the past year I have been in contact with people from a store in Germany, London, and Italy. In all 3 cases I was told the Model S will not be available for a bit longer, and that they are not currently taking reservations (What's this about?). They basically said that the ship dates for Europe are about 1 year behind the USA. In one of the cases, I was told they were informed to tone down advertising of the Model S and X and to push for talking about the Roadster. I was also informed that sales in China will be virtually non existent, since there is currently a 100% import tax on luxury cars in China? Is this right?

doug · May 17, 2012

Tesla still has Roadsters to sell in Europe, and the Model S/X won't be available for a while yet.

AnOutsider · May 17, 2012

Makes sense if they want to push the inventory they do have. I think the earliest Europeans can expect a Model S is early 2013. Not sure why they wouldn't at least take a reservation though.

doug · May 17, 2012

Clearly many Europeans on TMC have Model S reservations.

Iamthecaliflower · May 17, 2012

I wish you guys did a breakdown by country, to give us an idea of where in Europe the reservations are coming from. I was told there were only 30 Reservations in all of Italy.

AnOutsider · May 17, 2012

Iamthecaliflower said:
I wish you guys did a breakdown by country, to give us an idea of where in Europe the reservations are coming from. I was told there were only 30 Reservations in all of Italy.

There IS a map of reservation holders... You could just go look at that.

Iamthecaliflower · May 17, 2012

True, however only 531 people have added their numbers to it.

Dragon · May 17, 2012

Iamthecaliflower said:
I wish you guys did a breakdown by country, to give us an idea of where in Europe the reservations are coming from. I was told there were only 30 Reservations in all of Italy.

You can't compare Italy with other countries like Germany. In Italy they had a lot of problems of all kind of natures, the Roadster is pratically non existent.
That they toned down advertisement for Model S is clear, they have to sell the Roadster for the next year. The Performance Model S with more seats, room, range is a direct concurrent for the Roadster.

Yggdrasill · May 18, 2012

The largest market for Tesla in Europe is Norway. IIRC, there's currently around 350 reservations for the Model S here, they have sold a good number of Roadsters, and continue to sell around four Roadsters per month.

EVs are very attractive in Norway, as they are exempt from substantial taxes as well as 25% VAT. (Equivalent gasoline cars to the Model S easily cost twice as much.) Additionally they can drive in the car pool lane, get free parking, free ferry crossings, free toll road access, etc

augkuo · May 18, 2012

In China, imported cars with engines larger than 4.0 liters are subject to a 25 percent import duty, a 17 percent value-added tax and a 40 percent consumption tax - total tax = 82%!!! I am not sure what the tax is on electric cars though - maybe just 17%?

Hache · May 22, 2012

I have a call from Tesla about every 2 months. The sales manager for France/Belgium/Switzerland is very friendly, we talk a lot. Seems like there are very few reservations in France (less than Belgium !), and that with my reservation number (EU P#233) and a 60KWh battery pack, I would get my car summer 2013. But it was just a guess.

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