Installing a Model-S Charger on a Public Right-of-Way

[gjamrok]

I have a reservation for a Model-S (P-237) and am trying to figure out how I will charge the car and was wondering if anyone with any experience in this area can help me.

First, the Model-S won't fit in my garage. It is a little too long and I don't have the money to rebuild my garage.

Second, like many of the drivers in my neighborhood, I usually park on the street (parallel parking) in front of or behind my house.

Third, because of the way my house is situated I don't have a driveway long enough to have a car park on it. My house is on a triangle plot of land that has a sidewalk and a parkway (the right-of-way in question) in front of and behind the house and it is illegal and unsafe to drape a charging cable across them.

Fourth, because the charging port is on the driver's side of the Model-S the cord may be exposed to moving traffic, and equipment damage and cord management become an issue.

I know it is going to be an uphill battle to try and get this done but as electric vehicles become more and more prevalent I think this will become a big issue.

I have heard that some municipalities have allowed this but I can't find any examples of it on-line.

When I visited City Hall (Culver City, CA) I was juggled around from "Building & Safety" to "Planning" and eventually to "Engineering" then I was told by someone in Engineering that "it's going to be very expensive even if you can get the approval and afford all the permits because it's a public right-of-way". He also said there will be liability issues and they will need to know all the numbers up front. What kind of wiring is used, what would the measurements on the enclosure that will house the charger be, what will the voltage, amperage and wattage be, etc. And if all that is approved it will be considered an "Attractive Nuisance" by the city.

I think they are grossly under estimating what an important issue this will be for electric car owners. He told me that he felt that I was in a very small minority of automobile drivers that would have this problem and that "99% of drivers have a garage that they park in every night". Which I think is absurd and grossly incorrect. Most every street in Los Angeles is filled with cars every night of the week.

I have found some helpful documents online from Santa Monica, CA, Sonoma County, CA, Portland, OR and something from Virginia Clean Cities and Electric Drive Washington that address the issues of having an EV charger in a public right-of-way but I am not a professional contractor nor am I particularly wealthy. I just want to have an electric car and be able to charge it in front of or behind my house.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

I'm including a photo of the house so you can get a better picture of what I'm talking about.

[Jason S]

Tunnel a conduit under the sidewalk imho. There are certainly allowances made for drainage, so you should be able to get by with a cord conduit under. ... Ok, so that's my "Redneck" solution but it prolly wouldn't make the city happy.

Park in the garage is the 'make the city happy' solution though.

Could ask engineering to put their brains on it though. Rather than tell them they must do X or Y because it will become a common thing, just toss ideas at them ... make it collaborative. They'll say what the issues are and maybe there is a way around the issues.

For instance: I see a nice light-pole across the street. It has power from somewhere. You could replace that nice tree by your house (that'll become a sidewalk hazard in a few years) with a light-pole that happens to have a NEMA14-50 plug on it. You do a quid pro quot with the city and provide an attractive pole powered by solar or LED with your home power and get a plug on the street with a lock on it. ... But that certainly isn't a cheap route to take.

[Lloyd]

How about making an extension on the bottom of tour garage door allowing you to back in and still charge with the car secured. It would be easily reversed if necessary when or if you need to sell the house.

[smoothoperator]

I have a reservation for a Model-S (P-237) and am trying to figure out how I will charge the car and was wondering if anyone with any experience in this area can help me.

First, the Model-S won't fit in my garage. It is a little too long and I don't have the money to rebuild my garage.

Second, like many of the drivers in my neighborhood, I usually park on the street (parallel parking) in front of or behind my house.

Third, because of the way my house is situated I don't have a driveway long enough to have a car park on it. My house is on a triangle plot of land that has a sidewalk and a parkway (the right-of-way in question) in front of and behind the house and it is illegal and unsafe to drape a charging cable across them.

Fourth, because the charging port is on the driver's side of the Model-S the cord may be exposed to moving traffic, and equipment damage and cord management become an issue.

I know it is going to be an uphill battle to try and get this done but as electric vehicles become more and more prevalent I think this will become a big issue.

I have heard that some municipalities have allowed this but I can't find any examples of it on-line.

When I visited City Hall (Culver City, CA) I was juggled around from "Building & Safety" to "Planning" and eventually to "Engineering" then I was told by someone in Engineering that "it's going to be very expensive even if you can get the approval and afford all the permits because it's a public right-of-way". He also said there will be liability issues and they will need to know all the numbers up front. What kind of wiring is used, what would the measurements on the enclosure that will house the charger be, what will the voltage, amperage and wattage be, etc. And if all that is approved it will be considered an "Attractive Nuisance" by the city.

I think they are grossly under estimating what an important issue this will be for electric car owners. He told me that he felt that I was in a very small minority of automobile drivers that would have this problem and that "99% of drivers have a garage that they park in every night". Which I think is absurd and grossly incorrect. Most every street in Los Angeles is filled with cars every night of the week.

I have found some helpful documents online from Santa Monica, CA, Sonoma County, CA, Portland, OR and something from Virginia Clean Cities and Electric Drive Washington that address the issues of having an EV charger in a public right-of-way but I am not a professional contractor nor am I particularly wealthy. I just want to have an electric car and be able to charge it in front of or behind my house.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

I'm including a photo of the house so you can get a better picture of what I'm talking about.

Turn half your garage into a carport...should not cost that much..

[MarkR]

Your situation sounds really challenging . . . thought about moving? I'd be tempted to build a small extension to your garage just to accommodate part of the hood of the S. I like that you appear ready to plug your car into your (solar) roof! The Model X looks to be shorter - might think about another model (and another wait).

[AndrewBissell]

Option 1: Consider using your garage as a car port - leave the door open when the car is parked in it. The S will fit in garage and driveway combined as far as I see. It's no more vulnerable than if the car was parked outdoors. You would obviously have to relocate items you store in the garage to a garden shed or something.

Option 2: Contract with one of the subscription charging companies that offer home and workplace charging. They may be experts in navigating these issues for the workplace end of the equation. If necessary argue that home is a workplace (your consulting business or whatever).

Option 3: After you get a temporary solution like Option 1 working go on a harm offensive with local officials and politicians. Drive them in the S. impress them. Show them how you charge at home. Know what %age of people can't even achieve the marginal solution you have. Point out how EVs benefit energy security, are green, reduce need for foreign wars, or whatever hits their political buttons - and show them how they are in the front line with the seemingly mundane issue of street-side charging. Ask them to be part of the solution. Do this for yourself and all the other guys. (I have been lobbying with @EVA_scotland on this issue as most of Scotland's population parks on street. The Amsterdam model is an inspiration - buy an EV, dealer informs city, city organises two EV parking bays on street near your home. Not dedicated to you, but there are two so likely always available.)

[richkae]

Street parking is a huge reason Tesla should consider offering the charge port on both sides.

[Tommy]

I would avoid the public-right-of-way area solution; if even approved there is no guarantee that the space itself where the EVSE serves won't be occupied by another car when you most need a charge.

You mention the length of the S "is a little to long" Hopefully that translates to under 6-8". If so, I would facade the front of the garage with man-made stone such as Culture Stone or Eldorado to permit a larger garage door to cover the outside of the opening and not look like it is hanging on the garage wall (the door would still fit within the opening's dimensions). This should extend the inside length by 6-8" without looking like an add on.

[NigelM]

Outfit the garage with lockable cabinets (not that expensive, then use your garage as a carport leaving the door open. Personally, I'd look at extending the garage....

[Lloyd]

Also, Could you make a small parking pad at the end of your house on the grassy side? You could run power to the end of the house under the eves. If you cut and repoured the curbs properly nobody would likely know any different. I would just do it and ask forgiveness later if caught without permitting.