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    No conversation since yesterday morning?? Problems with site?

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    Really not much to say right now.
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    OK. Just seemed odd. I enjoy reading the (sometimes heated) conversations and learning as much as I can.

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    Good, largely realistic, "Forbes" Article: tesla-motors-three-risks-that-could-affect-our-price-estimate/ gives a price estimate of $41.

    In other news, Fisker reports ("Fisker On Death’s Door? Big Recall, Exec Shuffling, Money Woes For Electric Carmaker") seem to have stopped the TSLA surge today. The market needs to learn Fisker and Tesla are not the same.

    To paraphrase George Orwell: Tesla good, Fisker bad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teslawisher View Post
    No conversation since yesterday morning??
    OK, I'll bite. Here's an idea: Jan $27 Puts are bringing in a lot of money: over $4.

    Earlier today people would have paid you $4.20 for the right to make you buy TSLA between now and Jan 19, 2013 from them at the price of $27. That's an effective buy price of under $23.

    Clearly some people are thinking Tesla won't make enough deliveries in 2012. If you think they will, this is a good way to put your money where your mouth is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smorgasbord View Post
    OK, I'll bite. Here's an idea: Jan $27 Puts are bringing in a lot of money: over $4.

    Earlier today people would have paid you $4.20 for the right to make you buy TSLA between now and Jan 19, 2013 from them at the price of $27. That's an effective buy price of under $23.

    Clearly some people are thinking Tesla won't make enough deliveries in 2012. If you think they will, this is a good way to put your money where your mouth is.
    I don't trade in options but as far as I know, a put is an option to sell, not buy. The contract you mention would bring in $400 but you're betting that at no time between now and Jan will the stock price drop below $23.

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    Daily volume has been quite low for the past several days...therefore, not much is happening. :shrug:

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    I decided to move the Off-Topic posts about Bonnie's avatar to random chitchat - Page 22 because, well, it's off topic but might be fun to discuss...
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    Quote Originally Posted by slavi View Post
    I don't trade in options but as far as I know, a put is an option to sell, not buy. The contract you mention would bring in $400 but you're betting that at no time between now and Jan will the stock price drop below $23.

    He is referring to selling the put and collecting the option premium. By chance if the option comes into the money, then he would be able to buy at the effective price stated, (strike - premium). You would be correct if he was to purchase the puts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slavi View Post
    I don't trade in options but as far as I know, a put is an option to sell, not buy. The contract you mention would bring in $400 but you're betting that at no time between now and Jan will the stock price drop below $23.
    Right, the person buying the PUT option from you is buying the right to sell you shares, which is the same as making you buy the shares.

    It's not solid that "at no time" can the stock to drop below $23. There's the remaining time value, there's that you didn't sell the PUT to a specific investor so some people paid more and some paid less for the option which affects the breakeven for them, and there's also that you end up in a pool from which assignments are given. Finally, if your approach is that you want to buy more TSLA then this is a way to either make some money or buy at more attractive price.

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