View Poll Results: Will you still buy a Model S if it doesn't get a 5 Star rating?

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Thread: Would you still buy a Model S if it doesn't get a 5 Star Rating? (Poll)

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    Roadster #1144 + Sig 114 dsm363's Avatar
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    If they fall short in any category, it sounds like the only area will be <5% female weight so if that doesn't apply to you or your family, it's still a 5 star car.
    Last edited by dsm363; 2012-04-22 at 04:41 PM.

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    Yes if it didn't get 5-star rating in ALL categories. No if it didn't get an overall 5-star rating.

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    I can only compare European crash test ratings but I know of no car that has ever gotten top ratings in every category, so to think that Model S could do so seems a bit unrealistic.
    And seeing that even really safe cars like current Volvo, BMW, Merc, Audi, Lexus etc. models don't get perfect safety ratings in current test sets, I wouldn't make my decision whether to buy the S or not dependent just on the crash test results. I'm sure the Model S will be a perfectly safe car even if it doesn't get 5 star ratings in every category (or even overall). Especially as the new Euro NCAP rating methods automatically deduce one of the five stars if the car doesn't get a very high score in pedestrian safety - which hardly any car does at the moment.

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    From the shareholder letter:

    We expect the safety rating of Model S will be independently determined by the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) and other groups. Under NHTSA’s New Car Assessment Program (NCAP), selected cars are independently purchased and crash tested. NHTSA then assigns “star ratings” to tested cars using the NCAP standards.

    Based on our internal crash tests and consistent with these published standards, we believe Model S will achieve NHTSA’s top, 5-star, rating. Compliance testing for global markets continues and will be announced as achieved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnOutsider View Post
    From the shareholder letter:
    I take that to mean they don't anticipate getting a 5-star rating in all categories, but expect it to receive a 5-star overall rating.
    Last edited by onlinespending; 2012-05-09 at 04:48 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by onlinespending View Post
    I take that to me they don't anticipate getting a 5-star rating in all categories, but expect it to receive a 5-star overall rating.
    My guess is that since the word is still out (NHTSA hasn't completed testing), they'd be a little nuts to make that claim.

    I think they're confident they'll get 5 star overall rating...and they may think they'll get it in all the categories too...but there's enough uncertainty that it wouldn't be prudent for them to make that claim at this time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnOutsider View Post
    Under NHTSA’s New Car Assessment Program (NCAP), selected cars are independently purchased and crash tested. NHTSA then assigns “star ratings” to tested cars using the NCAP standards.
    I pray they won't sacrifice a Sig for this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brianman View Post
    I pray they won't sacrifice a Sig for this.
    I was wondering the same. Elon mentioned they do not know when the official testing would happen or how they get their hands on a car. But if the do it anytime between July - September, it must mean they are crashing a Sig (or a few of them??), and that would be a shame

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    Quote Originally Posted by mlascano View Post
    I was wondering the same. Elon mentioned they do not know when the official testing would happen or how they get their hands on a car. But if the do it anytime between July - September, it must mean they are crashing a Sig (or a few of them??), and that would be a shame
    Indeed. But, that's the way it has to go. NHTSA has to issue a safety rating before the car can be driven by any customer, right?! So, latest by June. Would they secretly get it from the Founders' series even?!
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    That's not the impression I had, gg_.

    The impression I had was that they have to certify it as road-drivable, which is separate from the "direct analysis of a random selection from the production line."

    It seems like they have to be separate. For example, for larger manufacturers they don't keep a backstock of 10K+ vehicles out of customers hands before they hear back that 9307 was tested and NHTSA has their data. That would seem nuts.

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