The last TM informational meeting I was at they asked for suggestions for supercharger locations. And I know there is a bunch of individual local discussions of best places to place a supercharger. I made another map in ZeeMaps for placing in your suggestions.
Tesla Supercharger Desired Locations
- To add a marker, use the "Additions"/"Add Marker - Detailed or Simple" drop-down.
- Use your reservation number followed by dash and your personal ranking e.g. "P1635-1" or "S42 (EU)-1" (1 would be highest priority for yourself)
- Please follow the color-coding convention in the legend at the bottom: green=90kW charger, lightgreen=20kW, lightblue=10kW (chargers should have lower levels at same location)
- If there is someone else with a reservation already in your desired location, please place your marker slightly to one side; otherwise, it will not be visible.
- If someone else already placed a marker near your desired location please be sure to place another marker there. The high frequency marker locations (from different reservation holders) can be the biggest signal to an Ideal location. You can turn off other posting by clicking on the ledge on the footer of the map - then you should be able to place without the other marker interfering.
- Try to be as specific as possible for the location - since this is a location you specifically would desire you should know what is in the area already. These markers are for trips you should be doing regularly.
Try to keep your suggestions for places that you would utilize only (<10 locations) . Hopefully others will choose similar locations and would send a signal to TM of what locations would be useful.
Traveling speeds affect distances - here is a approximate guide of ideal distances :
Max Range (miles) 40kWh 60kWh 85kWh 55mph 160 230 333 60mph 150 213 307 65mph 136 197 283 70mph 128 182 260 75mph 116 169 239 80mph 109 156 219
80% MaxRange (miles) 40kWh 60kWh 85kWh 55mph 128 184 267 60mph 120 170 246 65mph 109 158 226 70mph 102 146 208 75mph 93 135 191 80mph 87 125 175
Wh/mile usage 40kWh 60kWh 85kWh 55mph 250 261 255 60mph 267 282 276 65mph 294 305 301 70mph 313 329 327 75mph 345 355 356 80mph 367 383 388 60 and 85 kWh packs match with my calculations to new Model S Efficiency and Range | Blog | Tesla Motors values
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[td]km/hmph Wh/mile Wh/km miles 85kWh km 85kWh 150 93 483 300 176 283 140 87 436 271 195 314 130 81 393 244 216 348 120 75 354 220 240 387 110 68 318 198 267 430 100 62 286 178 297 478 References:
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EV Time Distance Chart CalculatorLast edited by daxz; 05-17-2012 at 08:04 PM. Reason: edited values based on Tesla blog
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I think its partly because the wh/mile numbers for the 40kwh pack are erroneous.Originally Posted by daxz
Using your data for range at 80mph:
85 kwh/213miles= 399 wh/mile
60kwh/163 miles= 368 wh/mile
40kwh/109 miles= 367 wh/mile.
you have 400 wh/mile, 367 wh/mile and 345 wh/mile numbers in your wh/mile table. Coincidentally 40kwh/116 miles (75 mph number) = 345 wh/mile suggesting something like an excel row shift error.
Thank you for the tables.
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made some additions for the German Autobahn Netz.
Many thanks to daxz for seizing the initative! Can you add some tables with ranges in km and speed in kph? Mind you, 150kph is a convenient cruising speed here!
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Dallas/Memphis/Chicago added - that was fun!
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edit initial thread posting adding in km/h chart for 85kWh pack
at 150 km/h you can go a max of 270 km w/ 85kWh pack
You are also getting close the limit of where the supercharge can sustain that velocity over long distances. For some distances it's quicker over all to slow down then it is to stop to charge.
Max sustained velocity for charger sizes.
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[tr][td]59 kW[/td][td]93[/td][td]150[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]31 kW[/td][td]75[/td][td]121[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]20 kW[/td][td]65[/td][td]104[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]10 kW[/td][td]51[/td][td]83[/td][/tr]
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Wh/mile usage chart is incorrect for 60kWh... Shouldn't it be 261Wh/mile at 55mph?
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I had 240miles as max range for 55mph in my calcs. I've re-adjusted my calcs with the 60kWh pack sizes above to hit 230miles @ 55mph. Thanks for pointing that out!
Still don't know why the 60 vs 85 would have the hit of 22Wh/mile.
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lol
I have just filled Denmark with all the optimal locations
mostly ferry crossings
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daxz: Great idea. Have you e-mailed Tesla with this map? I'm sure they probably already know about it but might be good information for them. Thanks.
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+1. It'd be not just good, but GREAT information for TM. It'd also solve a lot of the headaches of finding suitable sites. If we already have cities in mind, it'd save them time and trouble of finding places. They'd just have to scout within city limits, not look for cities to put them.If it is worth doing, it is worth OVER doing. - Mythbusters
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