Suggested Supercharger Locations

[dsm363]

Maybe it would be best at the one month of ownership phone call I think they should do (after getting permission from the owner to make the call) in which they reinforce the battery contract that was signed, why the car should be plugged in, and the risks of not plugging the car in for extended periods. During the phone call they could talk about the Supercharging network they are building. They could say it will take years to build out but that they are asking owners what location they would like to see a charger and that they are building a database of owner requests to see where the ideal locations are to place Superchargers.

Problem with this is it help people who already own a car. Building a grid network that will spur purchases in new areas might be better unless the plan is to have it grow like capillarity action. That would favor servicing issues.

I think the Superchargers should start at 150 mile intervals along major highways from each Tesla Store. Since people are more likely to buy a car that live near a service center than 1,000 miles away, that makes sense for a starting point. This would effectively double the radius of people that live within one Supercharger's access of a Tesla store.

The main purpose of asking people their desired location would be to see what they thought would be a good location for a Supercharger. If enough people were clustered in a certain city that wasn't anywhere near a Tesla Store but all requested a similar town for a Supercharger, then that location would also work well for those owners.

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I think the Superchargers should start at 150 mile intervals along major highways from each Tesla Store. Since people are more likely to buy a car that live near a service center than 1,000 miles away, that makes sense for a starting point. This would effectively double the radius of people that live within one Supercharger's access of a Tesla store.
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The best reason for asking for specific locations just might be that someone might suggest a place they had not thought of or heard of.

[Larry Chanin]

Anonymous and general locations may be helpful but they have less influence on determining the BEST locations.

In my opinion dozens of anonymous locations without any additional description or explanation are of marginal value to Tesla in considering real-world locations where they might actually contact a prospective host. Anonymous markers designating false "Tesla Motors" locations are downright unhelpful.

Larry

[neroden]

[*]Try to be as specific as possible for the location - since this is a location you specifically would desire you should know what is in the area already. These markers are for trips you should be doing regularly.

I wasn't terribly specific because I picked places which I want to "pass through" without really stopping for that long; in places where I really want to stay overnight, or even for a long dinner or lunch, I don't need Superchargers! So I picked cities, but not locations within cities.

I also want to emphasize that these markers should be placed judiciously. As though the money to fund these locations is coming out of your own pocket (it really is if you are a stockholder like me). This is why I said limit your picks. Placing in your reservation number or login id is a way to signify that its your suggestion. Anonymous and general locations may be helpful but they have less influence on determining the BEST locations. If you regularly travel these routes then you should know where the best locations should be.

I explained on each of my markers why it would be useful for me.

I picked locations that I could use 2-6x a year. I picked locations based on range of 230Mile pack at the local speed limits that would be needed. I also tried to pick locations near major Interstate intersections so that others may benefit from the same location. I also placed markers at or near establishments I've previously stopped at.

I drive less often than you and I'm getting the 300 mile pack. So I picked locations which would change certain trips which I take every few years from "must rent gas car (yuck)" to "possible in Model S", based on the 300 mile pack. This has the advantage of creating a skeletal cross-country network. The cities I chose are definitely the right ones and are typical refuelling points for me in a gas car. More closely placed chargers would be an improvement, but my focus was on "access" -- being *able* to get to various locations without staying overnight.

In particular Erie, PA is absolutely crucial, being at the point where several different routes compress into one. (I'm generally coming from the east along route 17 (interstate 86) but other people are coming west on I-90; travel west/south of Erie splits in multiple directions towards Pittsburgh or Cleveland, and splits again at Cleveland. But I don't really want to hang out in Erie overnight, or even for six hours, though a couple of hours is fine.) A supercharger in Erie extends the "range of possible trips" massively.

[daxz]

I wasn't terribly specific because ...
...I explained on each of my markers why it would be useful for me. ...

your tags look good to me. Its more the anonymous markers without any comments that I was considering trying to minimize. I know if a charger ended up even close to a desired location it would probably be used.

...Anonymous markers designating false "Tesla Motors" locations are downright unhelpful.

I think that the Tesla Motor sites will probably be some of the first locations that end up with fast charging - so I placed these on the map as reference. Clicking on ledger item on the bottom of the map will hide the markers.

Currently the map contains:
63 Anonymous 90kW chargers - some with and without comments
137 markers from 27 reservation holders with an average of 5 markers/res and max of 25 markers from one individual.

[Norbert]

I had to smile about the one in the ocean not far from Santa Barbara. According to its comments it is meant for San Luis Obispo.

[W.Petefish]

The locals that I picked in Texas have to do with Range VS Coverage.

If one supercharger will service, lets say, 200 Mi then it follows that if they are placed at least 200Mi apart and 175 Mi away from major cities. If you draw a circle around the superchargers on a map, it should have a radius of 200Mi. This will give you a general idea of the coverage of that supercharger.

The placement away from major cities has to do with Tesla is wanting to expand to have one store in every major city (and it follows that they'll have 10-20KW access or access to a supercharger on site), and the fact that 10-20KW is readily available in those locals be it at a person's residence or at the local theatre/cineplex/mall.

[Lloyd]

I had to smile about the one in the ocean not far from Santa Barbara. According to its comments it is meant for San Luis Obispo.

Yep, that was me. I tried to enter this location with an I pad, and everytime I selected the location it put it in another spot. Once entered I was unable to edit. Someone can remove that one.

[daxz]

Someone can remove that one.

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[Larry Chanin]

Anonymous markers designating false "Tesla Motors" locations are downright unhelpful.

Larry

I think that the Tesla Motor sites will probably be some of the first locations that end up with fast charging - so I placed these on the map as reference.

Hi,

I think you misunderstood my remark. Your Tesla markers are very helpful. I am referring to an anonymous poster who is creating false Tesla locations in Georgia and North Carolina. If you have the ability to edit the map I would suggest that you delete these false Tesla markers.

Thanks.

Larry