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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrew Wolfe View Post
    Yeah - but I still think of 18" as XL.

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    I know all those concept drawings where even small hatchbacks often look as if they sported 23'' monster-wheels. And even though it may or may not look good on some cars, the drawbacks far outweigh the nicer optics:

    - large rims / tires are prohibitively expensive
    - they don't last as long
    - they are no use in winter conditions (or at least you don't get winter tires in dimensions that big)
    - they decrease your milage efficiency (imho the most important drawback, especially in an EV!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert.Boston View Post
    FWIW, when I saw the two wheels side-by-side, I preferred the clean, open lines of the 19". Obviously this is a matter of personal preferences, but the 19" wheels are not the ugly duckling.
    I completely agree with you Robert. I saw the 19-inch rims on the silver Model S at the Fashion Island event today, and my wife and I instantly made up our mind --> We're getting the 19-inch rims hands down.

    The 19-inch rims look great, the straight lines on the rims work well with the curves of the car body. The tires still have a nice aggressive look to them, nice and big tires.

    The 21-inch rims means higher potential for scuffs, reduced life on the tire. a higher cost tire to replace. And $3500 added cost on the car. For my wife and me, we decided the edge that the 21-inch rims get you is not worth it in the bigger picture.

    However, its definitely a personal choice. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and costs are relative. I can see why many folks are going to go for the 21-inch rims - looks and performance. But for us, we're definitely down with the 19-inch rims.

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    FWIW, my wife did the Fremont test drive on a Performance with 21" wheels and thought it handled the rough road section better then her BMW with 18" rims. Maybe the air suspension compensates really well?

    The issues on M+S rating, etc. are, of course, still valid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AustinPowers View Post
    - they decrease your milage efficiency (imho the most important drawback, especially in an EV!)
    FWIW - I talked w/the designer/engineer of the aero wheels in Hawthorne Saturday (sorry, forgot his name, but he was very helpful/informative), and from an aerodynamics perspective, the 19" and 21" wheels are basically identical.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drees View Post
    FWIW - I talked w/the designer/engineer of the aero wheels in Hawthorne Saturday (sorry, forgot his name, but he was very helpful/informative), and from an aerodynamics perspective, the 19" and 21" wheels are basically identical.
    That would be correct because the nominal section width and overall diameter of both tires is the same. The difference in rolling resistance will be from the wider tread width, stickier tread compound, and perhaps the different belt construction in the 21" tires.
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    I plan to get the 19" wheels and stick proper all-seasons on them for the winter and I will go aftermarket for a set of spring/summer/fall wheels. I can't justify giving Tesla $3500 for 21" wheels when I can go aftermarket and get exactly what I want.
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    Quote Originally Posted by smorgasbord View Post
    FWIW, my wife did the Fremont test drive on a Performance with 21" wheels and thought it handled the rough road section better then her BMW with 18" rims. Maybe the air suspension compensates really well?

    The issues on M+S rating, etc. are, of course, still valid.
    At Fremont my group and I had the opportunity to ride in both a Performance model with 21" wheels and a standard model with 19" wheels. All four of us riding in both cars were surprised that the Performance model handled the bumps much better than the standard. This of course is counter-intuitive.

    We have no idea why this was the case, but it made me much less concerned about my decision to get performance wheels and tires.

    Larry

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    Quote Originally Posted by Larry Chanin View Post
    At Fremont my group and I had the opportunity to ride in both a Performance model with 21" wheels and a standard model with 19" wheels. All four of us riding in both cars were surprised that the Performance model handled the bumps much better than the standard. This of course is counter-intuitive.

    We have no idea why this was the case, but it made me much less concerned about my decision to get performance wheels and tires.
    When they asked for your test drive vehicle preferences did you whisper back "convince my wife that we should get the Perf"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by brianman View Post
    When they asked for your test drive vehicle preferences did you whisper back "convince my wife that we should get the Perf"?
    Hi Brian,

    You're always working the angles, aren't you?

    In 20-20 hindsight it worked out as you surmissed.

    However, you realize that based on prevailing wisdom the standard should have had a more comfortable ride right? So wouldn't I be taking a greater risk trying to anticipate my wife's preferences by deliberately asking for a standard?

    An aspect that was less risky is that most women love the prospect of having more design options. Going with the performance model provided her with more interior accents to play with. Seriously, my wife has been very supportive in my decisions, but taking her design recommendations certainly didn't hurt when making the final decision to commit to a performance model.

    Happy wife, happy life!!



    We found this photo posted on the Tesla Event Gallery. Does she look happy to you?

    The decision to drive a standard model simply hinged on the fact that there was at least a 40 minute wait for a performance model.

    Larry

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    Quote Originally Posted by William3 View Post
    Did they both have the air suspension?
    There were none without.
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