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    Quote Originally Posted by smorgasbord View Post
    The "deliver the car ... to your hotel on vacation"option opens up a number of fun possibilities (Pebble Beach? Catalina?), but I can't refuse the factory deliver/tour option.
    I'm curious about this one as well. I'm in WA (no sales tax). Suppose I "happen to be" vacationing near the factory at the time. Can I take delivery at a hotel in California? If so, do California's "interesting" take-delivery-in-CA rules apply?

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    Quote Originally Posted by brianman View Post
    I'm curious about this one as well. I'm in WA (no sales tax). Suppose I "happen to be" vacationing near the factory at the time. Can I take delivery at a hotel in California? If so, do California's "interesting" take-delivery-in-CA rules apply?
    Exactly what I was thinking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brianman View Post
    I'm curious about this one as well. I'm in WA (no sales tax). Suppose I "happen to be" vacationing near the factory at the time. Can I take delivery at a hotel in California? If so, do California's "interesting" take-delivery-in-CA rules apply?
    I've said it before, but I'll repeat it. CA is extremely clear. If you take physical possession in CA you pay the sales tax. Your purpose for being in CA is irrelevant.

    Edit: http://www.boe.ca.gov/pdf/pub34.pdf
    Vehicles purchased for use outside California
    You are generally not required to report tax on a vehicle that is sold and delivered for use outside California. You
    must establish that the vehicle was delivered to the purchaser outside California (for example, delivered by your
    employee or by common carrier), and that the purchaser did not take possession of the vehicle in California.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ckessel View Post
    I've said it before, but I'll repeat it. CA is extremely clear. If you take physical possession in CA you pay the sales tax. Your purpose for being in CA is irrelevant.
    Edit: http://www.boe.ca.gov/pdf/pub34.pdf
    Another reason not to spend vacation dollars in California. Penny foolish and pound foolish government.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ckessel View Post
    I've said it before, but I'll repeat it. CA is extremely clear. If you take physical possession in CA you pay the sales tax. Your purpose for being in CA is irrelevant.

    Edit: http://www.boe.ca.gov/pdf/pub34.pdf
    Yeah, but who knows. TM might pull a tax free rabbit out of their factory as the Gov was at the Model X event.

    And I bought my MINI in Chicago, flew out to Chicago, paid for it, then physically drove it to Texas and paid taxes when I registered it in Texas. So I've done it once...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Discoducky View Post
    Yeah, but who knows. TM might pull a tax free rabbit out of their factory as the Gov was at the Model X event.

    And I bought my MINI in Chicago, flew out to Chicago, paid for it, then physically drove it to Texas and paid taxes when I registered it in Texas. So I've done it once...
    Afaik not many (if any?) states are like CA in that they force you to pay tax there. I've bought 2 cars that have come from other states (SC and MT), but paid tax in PA both times. As I understand it, CA is unique in that they don't care where it will be registered. You take possession there, you pay taxes there.

    Of course there may be a workaround if you sort of only test drive it for a week there then have it delivered elsewhere. CA is too ar from me to consider factory delivery, so not an issue for me, but it indeed is a sucky law.

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    I hope Tesla sets up the delivery where you can go see your actual car, maybe drive it around the track for a few minutes, tour the factory then give the car back. You wouldn't take official delivery and could go back home and pay the taxes there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dsm363 View Post
    I hope Tesla sets up the delivery where you can go see your actual car, maybe drive it around the track for a few minutes, tour the factory then give the car back. You wouldn't take official delivery and could go back home and pay the taxes there.
    This is what I am hoping for. Maybe even drive around town as a 'rental'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ElSupreme View Post
    This is what I am hoping for. Maybe even drive around town as a 'rental'.
    I don't see Tesla doing that. Either you take possession, that means it is your liability if something happens with the car on that visit to the test track. Or it is a rental, meaning you pay extra insurance for the car to become "yours" later - but who would do that?

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    I wonder if CA would mind if you did the paperwork first (titling, Bill of Sale, pay local taxes etc) in your home state, and then flew to CA to take possession of what is now YOUR car. The local Tesla store could do all the paperwork with you. Then you're not buying it in CA, it's only where the car happens to be sitting for the moment.
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