kWh prices world-wide

[widodh]

As a follow-up on this topic: Fuel prices world-wide

What do you pay for a kWh?

I just moved into my new house and got a letter from the utility company with the prices for electricity here:

- raw kWh: EUR 0,06
- Taxes: EUR 0,12
- VAT 19%: EUR 0,03

Total: EUR 0,21 per kWh

If I charge my Model S with the 85kWh with a 90% efficiency I consume about 94kWh. With 0.21 per kWh that's almost EUR 20,00 for a full charge of a Model S.

As you can see, not only are taxes on gasoline high here (56%), they are even higher (~70%) on electricity.

On the 85kWh battery I expect a real life range of about 320km (200m), so that brings me to EUR 0,06 per kilometer. That's cheaper then my Toyota Auris Hybrid (0,10 per KM).

What do other forum users here pay for their electricity?

Do you have a smart grid where (as a residence) you pay based on the time of the day?

Do you have cheaper rates at night?

I think this would be nice to sum up!

[ElSupreme]

I live in Georgia, USA and we have summer (June - Sept) rates and regular rates. Georgia Power (Southern Company) is my power provider. They have some of the nastiest Coal plants in the country. You can sign up for flat billing, time-of-use billing, or EV time-of-use billing. We get charged different rates depending on how much we use in a month. My power bill is almost always lower than my internet/tv bill.

Flat Rate Winter:
First 650 kWh: 5.0633¢ per kWh
Next 350 kWh: 4.3443¢ per kWh
Over 1000 kWh: 4.2647¢ per kWh

Flat Rate Summer:
First 650 kWh: 5.0633¢ per kWh
Next 350 kWh: 8.4166¢ per kWh
Over 1000 kWh: 8.6701¢ per kWh

Regular ToU Rate All Year:
'On Peak' (2PM - 7PM Weekdays Summer) - 19.2948¢ per kWh
'Off Peak' ( not 'On Peak') - 4.3626¢ per kWh

EV ToU Rate All Year:
'On Peak' (2PM - 7PM Weekdays Summer) - 19.2948¢ per kWh
'Off Peak' (7AM - 11PM and not 'On Peak') - 5.8295¢ per kWh
'Super Off Peak' (11PM to 7AM) - 1.2500¢ per kWh


I also pay 6% sales tax, ~6% environmental fee, ~3% Nuclear Construction Fee (only New nuclear reactor in USA in a long time is GA Power), and 85¢ county fee.

I am thinking about the ToU rates. But my Fiancee works from home a lot. Maybe she can go to the office during the summer. And my poor doggies need a solution for them too.

EDIT: I am on the flat rate program. I think it may be the cheapest option.

[Yggdrasill]

Here, it costs about 0.3 Norwegian kroner per kWh in electricity and 0.5 kroner per kWh in transmission cost. That's a total of around $0.14/kWh or €0.11/kWh.

There is no off-peak pricing, as we have enough hydropower that regulation of the power grid isn't an issue.

The cost per km for a Model X will be around $0.035 or €0.028. My Honda CR-V costs around $0.25/km or €0.19/kWh with gas prices here. My CR-V isn't exactly efficient, but even if I drove an efficient car, the Model X would still cost around 70% less per km.

[Beavis]

In rural CO, $.1197 flat rate. Time of Use rate is $.13 from 7am to 11pm and $.01 from 11pm tp 7am. Naturally, I will be on the TOU plan and charge at a penny per KwH.

[widodh]

Here, it costs about 0.3 Norwegian kroner per kWh in electricity and 0.5 kroner per kWh in transmission cost. That's a total of around $0.14/kWh or €0.11/kWh.

There is no off-peak pricing, as we have enough hydropower that regulation of the power grid isn't an issue.

The cost per km for a Model X will be around $0.035 or €0.028. My Honda CR-V costs around $0.25/km or €0.19/kWh with gas prices here. My CR-V isn't exactly efficient, but even if I drove an efficient car, the Model X would still cost around 70% less per km.

Do you use the range Tesla gives for the battery pack? Since I don't think you'll be able to get 480km out of the 85kWh pack.

That's why I use 320km for a real-world range of the 85kWh pack.

[Yggdrasill]

Do you use the range Tesla gives for the battery pack? Since I don't think you'll be able to get 480km out of the 85kWh pack.

That's why I use 320km for a real-world range of the 85kWh pack.

I used 250 Wh/km (340 km range), which is fairly pessimistic. How much range you get depends on how you drive. Here, the speed limits of most roads are a maximum of 80 kmph/ 50 mph, which is less than the reference 55 mph. If you drive at 120kmph/75 mph, a range of 320 km would be optimistic.

[clea]

In Quebec, Canada, we only have one rate for residential (AFAIK).
Fixed charge : $0.4064/day
First 30 kWh per day $0.0539/kWh/day
Remaining kWh per day : $0.0751/kWh/day
add on federal tax (GST): 5.0%
add on provincial tax on the subtotal (QST): 9.5%


Using widohd's 90% efficiency of charging I estimated an average daily cost of approx $1.25/day to charge for my driving habits. This is of course assuming that my cost for the car is above the normal usage so doesn't benefit from the cheaper price for the first 30 kWh/day.


They (Hydro Quebec) are in the beginning stages of deploying smart meters but they are only talking about the automatic meter readings and outage detection so i wouldn't consider it being classified as a smart grid implementation just yet.

[jkirkebo]

Here, it costs about 0.3 Norwegian kroner per kWh in electricity and 0.5 kroner per kWh in transmission cost. That's a total of around $0.14/kWh or €0.11/kWh.

And transmission costs vary widely depending on where you live. I pay only 0.36NOK/kWH for transmission, thus about €0.10/kWh total including all taxes and VAT.

But the price can quickly change as I pay spot-market prices. Tomorrow power might be even cheaper, or prices could double. I get billed a one month spot price average.

[Lloyd]

See Below for California'a very high rates!

[markwj]

Hong Kong (Kowloon):

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Total Bimonthly* Consumption Rate (Cents/Unit)
Each of the first 400 units: HK$0.778
Each of the next 600 units: HK$0.893
Each of the next 800 units: HK$1.034
Each of the next 800 units: HK$1.210
Each unit over 2,600 units: HK$1.295

The fuel clause charge is HK$0.178 per unit.
The rebate is HK$033 per unit.

A unit it 1kWh.

Worst case, around HK$1.44 per kWh (~US$0.1846/kWh).

No real off peak benefit. Rumors of a solar feed-back to the grid system coming, but nothing substantial.