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    Quote Originally Posted by stopcrazypp View Post
    I don't know what the heck you guys are talking about. The guy who wrote that review of the Model S was this guy:
    http://www.plugincars.com/user/laurent-j-masson

    From this article:
    http://www.plugincars.com/carlos-gho...er-113700.html
    I didn't actually look at the article but the way it was linked and quoted made it seem like that quote came from Ghosn to me. Ignore my comment. Simple mistake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnOutsider View Post
    Call me argumentative, but I think the Model S is handsome, but wouldn't call it stunning. The interior has grown on me though. Looking forward to seeing an RC interior
    No, but I'll call you the resident contrarian I'm kind of used to you taking the opposing viewpoint by now

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    Quote Originally Posted by stopcrazypp View Post
    I don't know what the heck you guys are talking about. The guy who wrote that review of the Model S was this guy:
    http://www.plugincars.com/user/laurent-j-masson

    From this article:
    http://www.plugincars.com/carlos-gho...er-113700.html
    Laurent Masson is one of the consistently worst EV writers I've ever encountered. Take anything he says with a large grain of rock salt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert.Boston View Post
    See Volker.Berlin's excellent write-up about the Geneva show and his discussions there with Tesla staff, over on the main boards.
    Robert.Boston, if you could provide a link that would be helpful. I searched Tesla's forum and was unable to find Volker's post. I'm interested in what he has to say as I find his posts are thoughtful and provide a good perspective from the European point of view.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tommy View Post
    Robert.Boston, if you could provide a link that would be helpful. I searched Tesla's forum and was unable to find Volker's post. I'm interested in what he has to say as I find his posts are thoughtful and provide a good perspective from the European point of view.
    It's HERE, but that thread is a members-only thread. If VB chooses to repost it here, I'll defer to his judgement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert.Boston View Post
    It's HERE, but that thread is a members-only thread. If VB chooses to repost it here, I'll defer to his judgement.
    Thanks, I am a member and logged in but didn't see the private posts, time for me to look over TM's website again and learn the in's and out's.

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    volker, forgive me for nibbling your post, but this has me happy:

    Build quality: Steve made a bold point that the 5-series/A6/E-class level of finishing sets the absolutely lower bar for Tesla and they actually are targeting a build quality that comes close to 7-series/A8/S-class levels.
    I was honestly worried the interior would disappoint me in the final version. I find the interiors on German sedans to be to my liking and preference, and am glad to hear that's what they're shooting for

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norbert View Post
    I wouldn't expect it too look "exceptional" among the flashiness of dozens of concept cars in stylized exhibition setups.
    you're deluding yourself if you think this is the issue... look at the PRODUCTION EV's at the show and then look inside the Model S... as I said before lots of lay people commented on this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin Sharpe View Post
    you're deluding yourself if you think this is the issue... look at the PRODUCTION EV's at the show and then look inside the Model S... as I said before lots of lay people commented on this.
    I guess it's more that I don't know what you are talking about. So far you seem to have mentioned only "other cars at the show". And you mentioned a "second issue for me", but I can't figure out what your first issue would be. Was perhaps one of your posts deleted?

    EDIT: I found it (from 10 days ago): "lack of understanding of electricity distribution systems outside of the US"
    Last edited by Norbert; 03-14-2012 at 02:21 AM.
    Buying an EV is one thing, being able to drive it beyond city limits another...

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    Quote Originally Posted by JRP3 View Post
    Laurent Masson is one of the consistently worst EV writers I've ever encountered. Take anything he says with a large grain of rock salt.
    Nitpicker's corner...

    I thought the point of the grain of salt reference was that it should be considered inconsequential. A large grain... well "irregardless." I'll stop there.

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