I own an EV and know that I must keep it charged
I own an EV but it wasn't made clear to me that I must keep it from being discharged
I don't own an EV but knew that you had to keep the battery from going flat
I don't own an EV and didn't know that you needed to keep them charged
Like I said, I have read the manual and I don't remember if there was different wording in the 1st 340 as opposed to after that.
In school we were given 2 types of tests (over generalizing): Closed book and open book. The reading the manual and being expected to remember everything is like getting 100% on every test you ever took, assuming you read the material. People even don't get 100%s on open book tests! More dummy-proof makes for better PR for Tesla and for EVs. My $0.02
DrTaras: The sequence of events published by Tesla clearly shows that pumps and fans continue to run until the battery dies. I don't have the time to dig up the reference, maybe I'll edit the post or someone else finds it, or you could look it up yourself. Quote from the Tesla press release about Model S bricking:
If anyone can come up with any reasonable suggestions as to what "going into a deep sleep mode that lowers the loss even further" might mean other than killing parasitic loads, then I'm all ears.Model S batteries also have the ability to protect themselves as they approach very low charge levels by going into a “deep sleep” mode that lowers the loss even further. A Model S will not allow its battery to fall below about 5 percent charge. At that point the car can still sit for many months. Of course you can drive a Model S to 0 percent charge, but even in that circumstance, if you plug it in within 30 days, the battery will recover normally.
- If you park at 50% SOC you can be away for a whole year, as I said.
- If you disregard all warnings and drive it down to five percent, you can still ignore it for "many months".
- If you insist on putting a 12-gauge load of buckshot through your foot by driving until the car will not move, then leave it without plugging in, it will still be OK for at least 30 days.
- Whenever the car detects that the battery is in danger, it will emit various visible and audible warnings, send messages to your phone, and even call Tesla for help.
What more do you want? This scenario is much less likely to occur than ruining an ICE because you forgot to have the timing belt changed.
Last edited by eledille; 03-01-2012 at 02:37 AM.
As far as I know all recent and future Tesla's have GSM as standard. Surely this could be set up at purchase time so that the car simply sends a TXT to the owners cell-phone (rather than just Tesla Service) alerting them to plug it in ASAP ?
I find it hard to believe that even Mr Drucker doesn’t carry a cell phone around with him, or read SMS or emails for more than a couple of weeks at a time.
Is there some reason why this would not work ?
I guess people don't feel 'permanently damage the battery' and 'not covered under your new vehicle warranty' are not strong enough. Tesla should add stronger, more natural language as mentioned before.
Last edited by dsm363; 03-01-2012 at 05:39 AM.
A dummy proof car will need an endless list of warnings to be acknowledged before it will start, which will test if they can read and make choices, EG:-
WARNING : Car will fall towards the ground if you drive off a cliff. This Tesla is not equipped with an anti-gravity drive. Do you understand this ? [yes] [no].
[CAR: If 'no' Then Enable_gene_pool_cleansing_underseat_spike_device]
Feel free to add your own anti-dummy warnings
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