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    Quote Originally Posted by etcgreen View Post

    Not sure why your posts seem so angry.
    Not sure why you keep starting your replies with this phrase, are you a bot? Since you claim to know so much, please do as I requested and list all the rare earths and heavy metal minerals used by Tesla. Provide the applications and the relative quantities. Of course you won't since you really have no idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by etcgreen View Post
    Actually there is a long list - we run several ourselves today in our operations. Since you are on the Tesla website, here is a vehicle that pretty much "blows the doors off of the Tesla sportster" that runs on B100.

    Need to get back to solving the problems - rather than just blogging.
    Third party test results please, and production numbers of course....

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    More goodies from ETCgreen: Biking worse than driving cars. Really. http://etcgreen.com/general/does-cycling-save-petroleum

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    Tesla will have delivered over 2,000 Tesla Roadsters before this car is even delivered. Is it even going to be sold in the US? Also, it says 0-60 in less than 4 seconds so unless it is 3.6 seconds or quicker, the Roadster sport can match it. Even the Model S will start deliveries before this car comes out. Yes it's fast, looks cool and runs on B100 but how about a car with a production of over a few hundred per year?

    Also, what car under $100,000 is allowed to use B100 under warranty and where can I find a B100 filling station in Texas?
    Last edited by dsm363; 02-15-2012 at 04:12 PM.

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    More goodies from ETCgreen: Biking worse than driving cars. Really. http://etcgreen.com/general/does-cycling-save-petroleum
    I saw that also. So it takes more energy to move a 20 lb bike + 160 lb rider at 10 mph, than a 3000-4000 lb automobile + 160 lb driver, at 60 mph? That takes some creative math!

    GSP

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    Quote Originally Posted by JRP3 View Post
    More goodies from ETCgreen: Biking worse than driving cars. Really. http://etcgreen.com/general/does-cycling-save-petroleum
    Damn I don't feel bad about driving to my mailbox any longer. Maybe I need a diesel powered hover-round.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GSP View Post
    I saw that also. So it takes more energy to move a 20 lb bike + 160 lb rider at 10 mph, than a 3000-4000 lb automobile + 160 lb driver, at 60 mph? That takes some creative math!

    GSP
    No math needed. It's 'likely'. I'm sold. I am stating the new green wave. B100 powered hover-rounds. Who is with me?

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    Steve, you still need to put that square on the biofuels map for us.

    Also, please tell us how the radical new wind turbine design is going. We're always interested in more efficient ways to fill EVs.


    Looks like you got owned over here too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by etcgreen View Post
    Drees,

    Not sure why your posts seem so angry. We are all trying to reduce emissions and our dependency on petroleum. I will share that your posts do not reflect a working knowledge of biofuels. To answer your specific question as to the cost of our 2nd generation feedstock sourced biodiesel - <$1 gallon to the pumps + tax with no government subsidies.

    If you would like to better understand the use of rare earth and heavy metal minerals used by the Tesla, I will have one of my engineers contact our friends at Tesla to provide you a direct source.
    etcgreen,

    Not sure why your posts seem to condescending. I will share that your posts do not reflect a working knowledge of anything in particular. I would like to know why at a cost <$1/gallon to the pumps without taxes or government subsides why your biofuels have not yet reached the market in significant quantity?

    I would like to better understand how you plan to address the inherent inefficiencies of growing sufficient quantities of biofuels to offset petroleum consumption without using an extraordinary amount of farm land. Please have one of your engineers post a response to the forum.

    I think we can all agree that we need alternatives to petroleum. Where we disagree is that you continue to downplay the disadvantages of biofuels and while making up disadvantages of EVs. And you continue to do it in a condescending manner, ignoring facts that are inconvenient to your business.

    I fully acknowledge that biofuels will play a niche role where it's energy density makes current and future batteries a non-starter.
    For example: The Biofuel Grind | Do the Math

    Please stop calling this forum a blog - the two are quite different.

    Thank you!

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    Quote Originally Posted by drees View Post
    Thank you!
    Hey, that tongue looks really angry, stop it!

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