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    Condo owner must pay for meter or unplug electric car

    Condo owner must pay for meter or unplug electric car - Ottawa - CBC News

    An Ottawa man is fighting the board of the condominium complex where he lives because it does not want him charging his electric car on other residents' dimes.

    The board's president has told condo owner Mike Nemat that an outlet he has used to charge his car will be disconnected.

    At a condo, all tenants share the electricity bill, but Nemat argues his Chevy Volt costs only about a dollar per night to recharge.

    The board said it should not pay for fuel for electric cars because it does not pay to put fuel in other cars. But Nemat said he offered to pay for all the hydro costs caused when his vehicle is plugged into the outlet.

    "They seem to think this car consumes a significant amount of electricity," said Nemat. "Realistically, it is only about the same as a microwave or any other small appliance."

    Condo rules state Nemat could plug in a block heater for a conventional car, which requires similar power, at no cost.

    But the board wants Nemat to install an individual meter at his outlet, which would cost $3,000.

    "This isn't some evil electric car that consumes a ton of electricity. It's just a drop in the pond compared to what the whole building pays," Nemat said.

    One of Nemat's neighbours, Steve Forbes, said he does not agree with the condo board's stance.

    Forbes's truck burns 240 litres of diesel per day and he said he is happy to see an electric car in the parking lot.

    "I think it's a technology that should have been here long, long ago," Forbes said.

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    The only thing ridiculous here is the cost of the meter. They should allow him to self report or install some low cost meter.

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    Or do as some people said in the comments, calculate the cost and contribute to the bill for that amount.
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    Well, that's what I meant by self report. At any rate, the condo board is probably deficient in basic math skills.

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    My dad's condo building did the same thing to a guy there who had a Global Electric Motorcar. My dad was the only one on the 17 person board that voted that plugging in was fine.

    Funny enough they have enclosed garages in the larger parking garage. And the power in the closed garages is also common unmeterd building power. The guy just started parking his EV in the closed garage, and parking his Lincoln in his EV spot. He charged for free.

    My dad went to Home Depot bought a window AC unit. Put it in his garage and maxed out the cooling. He fermented my homebrew beer in his garage/cooler as a protest for 6 weeks.

    EDIT: This was the same board that turned off 2 of their 4 elevators (28 story building) because they were using too much electricity. Despite my dad's technical discussion that about 80% of the elevator power use is due to weight up and down. Not number of trips (which also didn't really change). The board was convinced that each elevator motor continuously drew maximum power all day and night.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ElSupreme View Post
    My dad went to Home Depot bought a window AC unit. Put it in his garage and maxed out the cooling. He fermented my homebrew beer in his garage/cooler as a protest for 6 weeks.
    Nice.
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    I saw the report on this issue on CTV news Doug...they interviewed a couple of "blue-haired" condo residents who were against letting him charge...their stance was completely based on EV ignorance and tortured logic.

    If a credible case could be presented showing that those who plug in their ICE block heaters are using (basically) the same amount of energy (daily) as the Volt is using, the Condo Corp should be charging for all or none imo...
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    Just tell them it is warming the oil pan. If they are dumb enough to think it should cost $3,000 to put in an outlet maybe they will believe it?

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    It took 2 years of negotiation and AUD$3,500 to get a dedicated meter and power point on my condo\appartment garage space.
    Now all I need is the electric car.
    So the lesson is, start early.

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