View Poll Results: Battery and Average Daily Distance

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  • 40 kWh: 0-50 miles / day

    13 15.12%
  • 40 kWh: 51-100 miles / day

    6 6.98%
  • 40 kWh: 100+ miles / day

    0 0%
  • 60 kWh: 0-50 miles / day

    6 6.98%
  • 60 kWh: 51-100 miles / day

    8 9.30%
  • 60 kWh: 100+ miles / day

    0 0%
  • 85 kWh: 0-50 miles / day

    30 34.88%
  • 85 kWh: 50-100 miles / day

    15 17.44%
  • 85 kWh: 100-150 miles / day

    3 3.49%
  • 85 kWh: 150+ miles / day

    5 5.81%
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Thread: How many miles do you travel in a day?

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    Model S 03182 ElSupreme's Avatar
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    How many miles do you travel in a day?

    Please fill out the poll based on what you will be doing most in your Model S.

    I have started logging the number of miles I travel every day for a couple of weeks now. But by the time I have to pick a size I should have some really good data to make a decision. I drive a lot. And generally I run my car to fumes. My estimated ‘miles to empty’ is at 0 for about 80% of my fill ups. I want to know how close you are comfortable running your Model S.

    • How many miles do you drive on a standard day?
    • What is the most miles you would drive on a normal day? (Weekend, Dinner/Errands after work, or Work/Meeting off site, NOT occasional travel)
    • And what size battery are you thinking about getting?


    • It looks like I normally drive about 60 miles on a standard day.
    • It looks like a 100 mile day where I have to drive to a meeting might happen a few times a month.
    • I was originally thinking of only the 85kWh pack, but I think it may be well overboard. And well it is starting to look like I really can’t quite stretch the budget to cover it either. Right now I am leaning towards the 60kWh but am considering the 40kWh as I feel I would feel comfortable stretching the battery to its limit.


    I am now doubtful whether or not the 85kWh pack will get me from Atlanta to Charlotte (240 miles) on a single charge. A 60kWh car could do this trip with a charge in the middle. This and my thinking I could afford the 85kWh pack were the main points there. I doubt I would do that trip w/o AC. And it certainly won’t allow me to excessively speed all the way there like I currently do.

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    No poll up, but on an average day my commute to and from work equates to 11.2 miles. I'm going to get the 300 pack though for the days I make trips where it's about 60 miles one way, or to visit family in other states.

    *edit* also just for my own piece of mind.

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    Oh and I also really want to get the 85kWh pack so when I drive people around I never have to ask "How far is that?" I don't want people to think that if you drive an EV you have to constantly monitor how much battery you have.

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    I generally drive less than 50mi/day on weekdays, and by the time I get my Model S, it'll be even less (my sons will be entering high school & middle school, physically closer than the school they're in now).

    Weekends are where the numbers get skewed, generally we drive much more on at least one of the weekend days, for chores or pleasure, and the car is far more loaded.

    Reasons for the big pack:

    - To reduce the effect of "range anxiety", which I must admit that I have a little of (I'm better at fighting it than my wife, who's not yet sold on EVs).
    - I assume that traveling with a full load of people (I'll have 5 + cargo on weekend trips) will reduce range by a noticeable amount.
    - If I understand how the pack works, a larger pack should last longer (some sort of wear leveling must be in effect).
    - I somehow managed to justify a Sig to the spending coordinator.

    At first I'll make good use of the range. If Elon makes good on his promise and cars ship on time, even though I'm #945 on the Sig list I'll probably have it before some remodeling is completed on my home. The remodel is over the garage, and involves major electrical work, so I won't get to charge it at home for a month or two.

    Meanwhile I look at Google maps, trying to figure out what sorts of places are reachable 100 or 200 miles from where I am (SF Bay Area). The 100 mi circle would be for trips that I don't expect to charge at the destination, and 200mi for trips where I know there's a charger at the destination (knowing there's a working charger at a given destination is an iffy idea in itself). The extra 100mi buffer is to reduce the anxiety, deal with reduced efficiency under load, and be ready for the unforeseen.

    /Mitch.

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    It's really not so much about typical distance as the maximum deviations and frequency thereof. If you travel 10 miles a day, but 500 on weekends, then that variance is going to require the 85kWh battery. In my case, there will be a semi-regular need to travel 120 miles in the morning then another 120 in the evening back. It's likely I'll be able to plug in to a normal 110v outlet to help get back some miles during the day, but that still mandates the 85kWh battery.

    The other option is to save $20k and go with the 40kWh battery and only use our ICE for such trips. That's probably the smart financial choice. I'm not sure how smart I'm going to be though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ckessel View Post
    The other option is to save $20k and go with the 40kWh battery and only use our ICE for such trips. That's probably the smart financial choice. I'm not sure how smart I'm going to be though.
    If you go too far down that line of thinking, it's far easier to justify a Leaf. It's a pretty good deal for a commuter EV when you think about it. This weighed heavily on my thinking at the beginning, especially when the pricing/options were announced and the Model S moved from expensive to painful.

    But: Model S (and hopefully its descendants) is different. The 300mi range gets me almost all the way to really being the only car I'll need, and that's a big part of the justification. It's simply going to be "my car," and not "my commuting car." I'm hoping that in the next several years the charging infrastructure will be beefier and more reliable. I can't yet see a future where I don't own an ICE, but it will happen.

    /Mitch.

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    Commute's roughly 65 miles a weekday. Throw in another 10-15 miles for chores, gym runs and such.

    My weekend trips would be within a 100 mile radius around Newark in the SF Bay Area (much like MitchL said). Any further out and I'd be taking wife's ICE or a rental.

    85 kWh is expensive and overkill for my purposes. 40 kWh would be iffy in my opinion (deeper, stressful cycles on the battery, no supercharger access if ever I need it, possible range anxiety and the potential need to look for chargers on the road on weekends). So, went with "60 kWh: 51-100 miles / day" above. Strikes a balance across need, 'want' and budget for me!

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    The 'smart' financial choice for me is definitely the 40 kwh since my 4 yr average daily distance is 28 miles. This includes 12 skiing trips > 500 mile round trips and a 2500 mile trip to Arizona. The S won't be doing those trips. So more realistically 22 miles per day average but this also includes many trips to the SF area ~ 14 @ 600 miles per round trip. So If I stay in the area with the S I am at 16 miles per day average. I want the 85 kwh model so that I can make the trips to the bay area or make it up to Oregon near an area I might be able to charge. The 'smart' thing to do would be trade cars with a neighbor for the long trips but I don't see that happening (looking at the car options of my closest neighbors)

    Round trip to work is only 5 mi. I might make it 10 once I get an S though : >

    What Doug says below is why I think the 300 mi is the one for me.. the trips to the Bay Area will be near the peak distance including a short charge break ( and the sport would make it just a little sweeter)
    Last edited by Zextraterrestrial; 2012-01-20 at 12:01 PM.

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    I work from home so the smart financial choice for me would be to not buy the car at all. Since I don't have a daily drive, I want to be able to use my Model S as much as possible, hence the 85kWh pack. Also I'm sold on the sport version so that solidifies my choice of the 85kWh pack.

    FWIW in the past 18 months I've averaged 55km/day (calculated by simply dividing km's traveled by days)

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    Average mileage isn't the point. Peak utilization is the issue.

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