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    Forbes: 5 new years resolutions for green cars

    5 New Year's Resolutions For Green Cars - Forbes

    I thought this was a decent overview and opinion. One slight criticism from the author that I have to agree with:

    "Let’s face it, battery cars are expensive, and it doesn’t make them any cheaper to use smoke and mirrors to hide the prices. Automakers do this by including the $7,500 federal income tax rebate in the boldface type it shows consumers."

    What do you think?

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    I think the automakers should include three prices. The retail price, the price after federal rebate and the lifetime 150,000 or 100,000 mile total cost of ownership. At first the Tesla might not be that great, but it would be much more competitive depending on the price of gas and mpg of other cars.

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    I think that will just confuse consumers. If people really cared, they'd do the math themselves. Most people just want to know the upfront cost.

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    An awful lot of manufacturers post numbers that assume all sorts of rebates and incentives. Tesla (Fisker and Nissan) are doing the same thing, it just happens that the rebate comes from the Feds instead of the manufacturer.

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    I am not going to feel bad about the $7500 tax rebate until gas stations start showing how much each gallon of fuel is subsidized by the government (direct to the oil companies and indirectly via wars and other policies used to secure oil)...

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    I enjoyed this typo:
    Eelectric cars are likely to be charged at home 80 percent of the time,
    Someone cleverer than me with Photoshop should do something with this!

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    Quote Originally Posted by user497 View Post
    I am not going to feel bad about the $7500 tax rebate until gas stations start showing how much each gallon of fuel is subsidized by the government (direct to the oil companies and indirectly via wars and other policies used to secure oil)...
    Ummm... Hardly the same?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnOutsider View Post
    Ummm... Hardly the same?
    True, the EV subsidy is only worth 2-3 years of the gas subsidy.

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    In CA you pay sales tax on the price of the vehicle before the $7500 rebate. That's over $600 in some counties.

    So, there is a difference, and Tesla is wrong to market it the way they do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smorgasbord View Post
    In CA you pay sales tax on the price of the vehicle before the $7500 rebate. That's over $600 in some counties.

    So, there is a difference, and Tesla is wrong to market it the way they do.
    It's a bit like how Best Buy (used to?) advertise prices with an asterisk of "after mail-in rebates" where you had to mail in a bunch of forms and sign up for useless newsletters in order to get a check a couple of months later. I don't mind them flaunting the fed tax credit, but plugging the car as "sub $50k car" is a bit off. It could definitely be advertised more clearly.

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