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    I hope Tesla doesn't offer a convertible of either the S or the Bluestar. Engineering a convertible is a waste of resources. I would rather their efforts went into building a more efficient body or drivetrain.

    How many convertibles sell each year? They don't need to chase microscopic niche markets.

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    Long doors are difficult in parking spots, though (the thickness of the door doesn't get out of the way).
    Buying an EV is one thing, being able to drive it beyond city limits another...

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    Quote Originally Posted by SByer View Post
    Convertible adds cost. I suspect that the initial version would be just a straight coupe. Cost focus: 'Cut until it bleeds, then cut once more'.

    Eric, I think the doors in the mock-up are short - are there any 2+2s with doors as short as 4 door sedans? I would have the rear wheels back by 2-3", the doors longer by about 4-5". That would start to get into 911 wheelbase length and door size. (Are the Roadsters' doors longer than the 911's? Don't seem to be, but then they're lighter, so maybe? My memory of my 911 is fading, I just remember those 911 doors always seemed to be worrisome about hitting something...)

    A coupe with a frunk would really put it into a class by itself.


    Could they keep the same design languages when cutting the cost? Do they want to? What's the relationship with the Roadster 3.0 going to be? The styling is going to have to be different, but even then, there's always the threat of falling into the 'Boxter/Caymen is just a detuned defeatured 911' territory (not that my 911 had terribly many 'features' beyond the killer clutch, gearbox and sweet engine - for an ICE, of course, for an ICE...).
    Agreed convertibles add costs. I see them coming out with a 4 door sedan first and then a 2 door coupe after that and finally a convertible and or station wagon after that. If they do a cross over I think it will be between the 4 door sedan and the 2 door coupe and if they do I think the station wagon will not be done.

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    Convertibles are nice. But I see no need for a hardtop convertible. At first blush, I was a little disappointed that the Roadster's top has to be removed/replaced by hand. But I've rented convertibles when traveling, and the Roadster's top comes off and goes on in about the same amount of time as the motorized tops on those rental cars. (Been to Hawai'i twice. Rented a convertible each time.) But if they do make a convertible ever again, they should definitely offer an optional mesh top, like the Taylor mesh top for the Roadster/Lotus. (The ability to have interchangeable tops is a good reason to have them taken off & put on manually.)

    (I just wish we'd get some decent weather this year, so I could take the top off!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by daniel View Post
    Convertibles are nice. But I see no need for a hardtop convertible. At first blush, I was a little disappointed that the Roadster's top has to be removed/replaced by hand. But I've rented convertibles when traveling, and the Roadster's top comes off and goes on in about the same amount of time as the motorized tops on those rental cars. (Been to Hawai'i twice. Rented a convertible each time.) But if they do make a convertible ever again, they should definitely offer an optional mesh top, like the Taylor mesh top for the Roadster/Lotus. (The ability to have interchangeable tops is a good reason to have them taken off & put on manually.)

    (I just wish we'd get some decent weather this year, so I could take the top off!)
    I find it very hard to believe that you can remove and stow(somewhere) the Roadster top in 22 seconds. That is the time it takes me to fold my top into the trunk. I perfer hardtops because I like the look of a sedan when I have it up and for the vandalism factor of a softtop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vfx View Post
    I agreed.
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    Even with that longer door, there's still no way to roll the window down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by doug View Post
    Even with that longer door, there's still no way to roll the window down.
    Yup. That would require some minor B pillar for a seamless window to close water tight. One Example is Jaguar XK:

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    I would love to see a Tesla with a design of the Alfa Romea Guilietta or the BMW series 1. Maybe it's too small for the US, but it would sell really good in Europe. Much better design than the Golf at least

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    Quote Originally Posted by erha View Post
    I would love to see a Tesla with a design of the Alfa Romea Guilietta or the BMW series 1. Maybe it's too small for the US, but it would sell really good in Europe. Much better design than the Golf at least
    I'd love to see that too but that is heading into the Leaf size territory. I think it's safer at this point for Tesla to stick with styles and sizes that no one else is doing - especially the Leaf. Maybe after the Gen III and Tesla has solidified their position in the market and established their brand and name.

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    I have a question? I live in MN. I'm insulating and heating the garage this month with and industrial Thermostat to keep the garage at 45 degrees for the winter. It's nice getting into a warm car and also takes the stress off the batteries. I'm also installing a 220 outlet in the ceiling for a Gen 111. The cord would come from above allowing us to walk around the car when pluged in. the outlet would have to be forward of the garage door when it is in the up position. How long is the power cord on the model S? I would need a 10' to 12' cord if outlet on Gen 111 is in the same area as model S. It would be nice if they put it on the front half of the car on Gen111.

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