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    Quote Originally Posted by Doug_G View Post
    Listen up, people, I want to stick my credit card in a slot and get a charge. Period. End of story. Move on.
    I guess you are not the only one!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jcstp View Post
    Maybe that is why they give away the free littlechef chargingcards!
    They are only 'free' for 12 visit or 12 months (which ever comes first) then you have to sign up to the POLAR Network to use the Little Chef sites
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin Sharpe View Post
    They are only 'free' for 12 visit or 12 months (which ever comes first) then you have to sign up to the POLAR Network to use the Little Chef sites
    Indeed, it's free with a big ?
    But for POLAR just long enough to accumulate some (potential) clients with wich they can brag in their prospectus!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jcstp View Post
    But for POLAR just long enough to accumulate some (potential) clients with wich they can brag in their prospectus!
    some people have suggested that it's just long enough to stuff bags full of cash and head for the beach
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin Sharpe View Post
    some people have suggested that it's just long enough to stuff bags full of cash and head for the beach
    The floatation or the membership-revenues?
    I think for now the membership-revenues are just enough for a sober week-end at the beach!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jcstp View Post
    The floatation or the membership-revenues?
    The flotation

    This is an interesting read: Cleantech EV Charging Infrastructure Briefing 8th December 2011
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doug_G View Post
    Listen up, people, I want to stick my credit card in a slot and get a charge. Period. End of story. Move on.
    My German Angst cuts in here. Far too many ATM were set up with forged card readers and cameras/forged key pads to read the entered PIN. There were even completely forged ATM set up in pedestrian areas, that did not tell money but just displayed an error message. The forged devices transferred the data wireless to a receiver nearby or via SMS from prepaid cell phone tariff (=user not traceable).

    With a RFID card, the network operator bills the registered account. I can identify his transaction on my check book.

    I completely agree that I don't want to acquire a dozen RFID cars and join a subscription scheme with monthly fees.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VolkerP View Post
    I completely agree that I don't want to acquire a dozen RFID cars and join a subscription scheme with monthly fees.
    for the record, we now have 22 different RFID cards in the UK to access EV Charging Stations
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    Quote Originally Posted by VolkerP View Post
    My German Angst cuts in here. Far too many ATM were set up with forged card readers and cameras/forged key pads to read the entered PIN. There were even completely forged ATM set up in pedestrian areas, that did not tell money but just displayed an error message. The forged devices transferred the data wireless to a receiver nearby or via SMS from prepaid cell phone tariff (=user not traceable).
    This is where using a credit card adds a layer of protection.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VolkerP View Post
    My German Angst cuts in here. Far too many ATM were set up with forged card readers and cameras/forged key pads to read the entered PIN. There were even completely forged ATM set up in pedestrian areas, that did not tell money but just displayed an error message. The forged devices transferred the data wireless to a receiver nearby or via SMS from prepaid cell phone tariff (=user not traceable).
    If those people put that much effort into making an honest living they'd probably make a lot more money.

    I'm just used to sticking my credit card in a gas pump. (Not that I do that nearly as often as I used to.) I suppose it would be a heck of a lot easier to fake a charge point than a whole gas station. But I doubt a fake charge point would be as good an investment for the crook as a fake ATM. There's a lot more traffic at an ATM. So I'm really not that worried about it.

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