2013 Lexus GS

TEG said:

Possible Model S competition for those not 100% committed to 100% electric...

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Two problems with that, at least in my opinion. #1: Sorry, no dice on the ICE. #2: On looks alone, I would pass on this particular generation of the GS even if they got serious and dumped the ICE.

I am guessing Model S reservation holders, on this forum at least, are already 100% committed to 100% electric. Otherwise we'd be driving a similarly good looking car such as a Jaguar XF already. And then on the other hand, we're here waiting for the Model S because of the whole package it offers, not the least of which is amazingly good looks.

I see the GS-h as competition for the Infiniti M35h, not the Model S.

I'd buy a Chrysler 300 before buying that ugly thing. No, I think the Audi A7 and possibly the Porsche Panamera would be the ICE cars to beat.

I think Lexus is continuing with the 450h GS[ (hybrid) for 2013.

I have a 2007 450h GS...best vehicle that I've owned prior to the Roadster!

After driving electric, I'd still rather have a Model S though...

TEG said:

I don't think anyone on this forum would 'defect' to the GS, even if there is a hybrid.
More likely someone who might normally consider a GS could get swayed over to the Model S.

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I can see the Model S "thinning the Lexus hybrid herd" a little...

TM has already stated that it is aiming at the BMW / Audi / Lexus / Mercedes markets.

A Chrysler 300? ...do you really need a car with a helicopter pad? :wink::biggrin:

Mycroft said:

I'd buy a Chrysler 300 before buying that ugly thing. No, I think the Audi A7 and possibly the Porsche Panamera would be the ICE cars to beat.

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True, I'm thinking that due to the cost of the vehicle, there will probably be more Lexus converts to Model S due to price considerations...still, the more, the merrier! :smile:

TEG said:

Also, keep in mind that Lexus is a Toyota brand, so Toyota may lose some customers to Model S.
I guess, indirectly, they stand to make money either way.

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I also own a 2007 GS 450 H and feel that it is the best car I have owned. I haven't yet taken delivery of my new Roadster yet so hopefully that will change soon . I will very likely trade my 2007 GS450H for a Model S next year or early 2013. I am very excited for the Model S but it won't be so easy walking away from my GS.

While researching my Roadster purchase I was told by two different Tesla stores that it is possible for Tesla to arrange for a trade in. Tesla would bring in another car dealer that would determine the trade in value and I presume take possession of your trade in. Tesla would deduct the trade value from your purchase price. I suppose this might not be an option in every location?

Warrenbonz said:

While researching my Roadster purchase I was told by two different Tesla stores that it is possible for Tesla to arrange for a trade in. Tesla would bring in another car dealer that would determine the trade in value and I presume take possession of your trade in. Tesla would deduct the trade value from your purchase price. I suppose this might not be an option in every location?

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That would really be awesome if true. The tax advantage of a trade in is big -- to be able to avoid paying sales tax on the value of a trade in (in my case, about $20k) can be significant savings, depending on a state's sales tax.

I hear you Warren...as great as the GS 45oh is to drive, the Roadster will make short work of your conversion to electric driving...I thought I'd miss the luxury performance ride of the 450h compared to the performance ride of the Roadster...I didn't miss it very long :wink:

My only complaint about the 450h was that is was a lousy ride in the winter...even with snow tires, lousy!
Funny, the Roadster with it's battery weight over the rear and its great TC is a much better performer in the snow...I'd never have thought this before actually driving the Roadster in winter conditions!

Hope you get your Roadster soon!

Warrenbonz said:

I also own a 2007 GS 450 H and feel that it is the best car I have owned. I haven't yet taken delivery of my new Roadster yet so hopefully that will change soon . I will very likely trade my 2007 GS450H for a Model S next year or early 2013. I am very excited for the Model S but it won't be so easy walking away from my GS.

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