Karma -vs- Model S

[Lloyd]

Fisker is now offering depositors test rides. We may start seeing some blog press on them like we did with Tesla.

I think we are going to see some competition soon as Tesla is due to release options on the Model S next month. Can't wait to see what they are going to offer!

[Jaff]

I think this will get very interesting...

It would have been cool if the Model S Beta's had been available for test rides at the same time as the Fisker...go head to head so to speak...

Fisker is now offering depositors test rides. We may start seeing some blog press on them like we did with Tesla.

[tomanik]

I think we are going to see some competition soon as Tesla is due to release options on the Model S next month. Can't wait to see what they are going to offer!

Release options next month, did I miss an announcement?

[Lloyd]

They have always said late summer (next month), and I confirmed it with one of the sales staff yesterday.

[doug]

Ray Lane makes some Tesla comparisons:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2q9qXHbjWU


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=weBtcZIWY00

[AnOutsider]

God, I wish he'd stop with the steeple fingers. His "reasons" aren't strong in my opinion, and he dodges mentioning gas. "The first 50 miles will be electric, and after that it just goes" -- yes... on GAS.

[vfx]

Thanks Doug,

The Fisker battery at half the cost of a Tesla battery does not seem to be a good value.

[doug]

Well, I guess the guy has to try to sell and differentiate their product. It seems in the journos' minds, Fisker doesn't really exist on it's own. They constantly frame it as "Fisker, the Tesla competitor". I have a few of other vids I put up but haven't really gotten around to labeling.

[Jaff]

But Ray, the Fisker is still has a pollutin' "Farting Frank" ICE with a much higher maintenance cost than a true EV...how do you rationalize this?

[donauker]

The shooting break design is sooo much more functional than the 4 seater karma with a trunk the size of the roadster.

Just how familiar are you with the trunk size of the Roadster?

I have packed the Roadster trunk for many road trips in the last 2 1/2 years and 32,000 miles. After packing the required charge cables and the specially shaped bag we got for the trunk, it becomes an art to fit in all of the remaining necessities a girl requires for a few nights. After opening the trunk of the Karma yesterday it looked huge by comparison and my girlfriend glowed as she exclaimed happily "I'll be able to take all of the shoes I want!". That coupled with the fact that with just the two of us the back seats add a huge amount of additional storage space in comparison to her cramming a few more necessities into her already narrow foot well.

As far as the shooting-brake is concerned. Yes I consider it ugly just as I consider all of the other shooting-brakes I've seen to be ugly.