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ZZZ...gross margin is before operating margin. Need those #s, which will be much less. Its truly NET INCOME.
Yeah, Tesla's earnings will be near zero or negative for some time. If they have a large gross profit and don't grow their operating expenses to consume that profit, they're doing something wrong.
but I agree that it's worth pointing out that P/E ratio refers to earnings after the operating expenses have been removed, not just gross profit.
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Thank you for the reservation graph the work is much appreciated. One thing I noticed that might better reflect real world activity is that the data points probably shouldn't be individual points but rather a specific quantity over the entire period from the previous quoted number. For example (THESE ARE MADE UP NUMBERS FOR ILLUSTRATION ONLY), if we have a data point of 13000 reservations Nov 1 and 13210 reservations 7 days later, then the entire period from Nov 1 to nov 7 would be highlighted at 30 because that was the actual average number every day rather than one single point on Nov 7. Going further, if 7 days later we are at 13,480 then the entire period from Nov 7 to Nov 14 should be filled in at 40 cars per day. If instead you simply use the average number 40 and place it as a point on Nov 14 as you've done above then the area under the line from Nov 7 to nov 14 averages only 35 because you are assuming a linear progression by connecting the data points with a straight line and connecting 30 on Nov 7 and 40 on Nov 14 would yield an average of 35. That's why you actually need to have the entire area from Nov 7 to Nov 14 running at 40. I think that would be more accurate if you understand what i am saying.
Also, looking at the Total Production numbers from 10/23 - 11/5 they should average 46/day instead of 120 (again that would be 46 running as one specific number across 13 consecutive days rather than one data point of 46 on Nov 5).
Again, thank you for the work in putting together all this information
A friend of Jason C just tweeted that he reserved #14,246.
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Put in our reservation for my wifes car (our car!) about 36 hours ago. Reservation #14,189. Planning on 85kWh with Performance and pano roof and tech package. Music upgrade Package too. Those are the big features for now, and we'll finalize the details later.
Now starts the unfortunate wait where hopefully the extras we want wil still be available, and the pricing won't have jumped. Hopefully some of the small data add ons will be already in the upgrades when we see our car! It's awseomg to see a car that has the ability to be further improved upon like a smart phone. Also, hopefully any initial quirks will be solved. Everybit more of this car I see, the happier I am to egoing this route.
Assuming he placed his order last night (Tesla stores weren't open at 9:00am this morning), that means 65 US reservations on Monday!
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Welcome! Great choice, i don't think there is any indication right now of prices going up but probably some more options will be available by the time you get your car. There's rumors of a handling package for the performance cars.
Hi all,
Just found an old incomplete model S signature reservation in my profile after i completed my model x reservation, and decided to try and complete it to see if it would work. Got two numbers: RN300923 and reservation sequence number 1,370. What do people think of its chances of going through?
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