Elon: Autopilot, new constraints on when it can be used

Can't say that was unexpected...

Where did he state this

Chasedrgc1223 said:

Where did he state this

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conference call...california?

Pretty sure it will involve seat-weight sensor to stop activation when you lift your butt.

andrewket said:

Elon just stated that they're concerned with some of the youtube videos showing customers using AP in an unsafe way. Elon said they are planning on constraining where/when AP can be engaged as a result (I assume via a software update.)

<sigh>

My car just got an upgrade today at a service center.

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Andrew,

Did you notice any apparent change or limits in AP functionality? What is the version that you got today?

As for Elon's statement about getting the AP enabled after delivery, we got that done today. However, not via OTA, had to take it to SC.

-Lanny

From the call:

"Almost a million a day of cars that are -- have Autopilot hardware. So, I mean, but the early data, this is early data, emphasize, is that it's very positive. So we're aware of many accidents that were prevented from Autopilot and we're not aware of any that were caused by Autopilot. That's -- but this is still -- this is still early and -- but it's a good indication. So it appears to be quite beneficial from a safety standpoint and I believe some of our customers have posted videos to this respect.


<A>: But I do want to emphasize we've discouraged -- there are fairly crazy videos on YouTube, we are -- this is not good. And we will be putting some additional constraints on when Autopilot can be activated to minimize the possibility of people doing crazy things with it."

Robbo said:

<A>: But I do want to emphasize we've discouraged -- there are fairly crazy videos on YouTube, we are -- this is not good. And we will be putting some additional constraints on when Autopilot can be activated to minimize the possibility of people doing crazy things with it."

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I think we all saw this coming. A lot of people used it in dangerous or scary ways and that brought a lot of negative press. Their hand was forced. They pretty much have to do something now or *when* (to be clear, there will be one eventually) there is an Autopilot accident the plaintiff will point to all these videos and say "You knew this was going on and you did nothing."

Once again, our society is brought down by the lowest common denominator.

Maybe I'm an optimist, but the way he said it on the call (which just ended) didn't sound like it was going to be a huge loss of usability.

Canuck said:

Once again, our society is brought down by the lowest common denominator.

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If only the car had ejection seats to expel those stupid drivers. Or it auto stop and tell them to get out and then it tricks them and locks them out for being dumbasses and not worthy.

Yeah, I'm hopeful it is only something like a seat weight sensor lockout. MAYBE geo restrictions to disallow use in downtown areas.

yobigd20 said:

If only the car had ejection seats to expel those stupid drivers. Or it auto stop and tell them to get out and then it tricks them and locks them out for being dumbasses and not worthy.

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Hmm. I'm not looking forward to a future where, should I insult my vehicle, it boots me out and drives away.

TACC became unavailable to me today. My normal commute is stop and go surface streets.

If this feature has become depriciated for me, I will be quite disappointed. I paid good money for this feature just so it would improve the drudgery of my commute.

andrewket said:

Elon just stated that they're concerned with some of the youtube videos showing customers using AP in an unsafe way. Elon said they are planning on constraining where/when AP can be engaged as a result (I assume via a software update.)

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Can't we just block the update? I don't think the car can update itself without us manually updating it, right? I know some people who are still on firmware 6.x

eclipxe said:

Pretty sure it will involve seat-weight sensor to stop activation when you lift your butt.

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I guess my dreams of taking a nap in the trunk while the car drives me down the highway are over. I imagine someone dropping something in the passenger seat and trying to pick it up. He lifts his butt for a bit to reach it and then car disengages AP in the middle of a curved road.

I really hope they don't constrain it. I will sign an agreement either electronically or on paper that I will abide by the agreement that I accepted prior to activating autopilot if it would prevent this from happening. I use my autopilot as intended and I would be greatly disappointed if what I paid for and now have, was downgraded due to foolish behavior by some drivers. I think a better idea is to identify, deactivate and refund the money to folks who are not going to bide by the agreement they electronically signed.

AllenWong said:

I guess my dreams of taking a nap in the trunk while the car drives me down the highway are over. I imagine someone dropping something in the passenger seat and trying to pick it up. He lifts his butt for a bit to reach it and then car disengages AP in the middle of a curved road.

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Not paying attention and having your hands ready to take the wheel (especially around a curved road) would be the first and most important mistake.

mobe said:

I really hope they don't constrain it. I will sign an agreement either electronically or on paper that I will abide by the agreement that I accepted prior to activating autopilot if it would prevent this from happening. I use my autopilot as intended and I would be greatly disappointed if what I paid for and now have, was downgraded due to foolish behavior by some drivers. I think a better idea is to identify, deactivate and refund the money to folks who are not going to bide by the agreement they electronically signed.

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So what happens if you use it on surface streets (responsibly) and the agreement says not to use it on surface streets at all?