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Nissan IDS Concept : Next Gen Leaf like with 60 kWh Battery
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CHG-ON
Still in love after all these miles
At least it is relatively attractive compared to the blow fish of a car that is out now. Nix the grille.
Agreed. Deliver the car and stop fantasising about it.
Agreed. Deliver the car and stop fantasising about it.
Hmmm ... Nissan delivered a ground breaking EV in 2010. No need to doubt the intentions here - Nissan is not Audi.
stopcrazypp
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Looks better than Leaf, but obviously very "concept" and not really indicative of a production car.
I'm more excited by the claim they have a working NMC prototype running around with 60kWh (presumably in similar size to Leaf pack).
I'm more excited by the claim they have a working NMC prototype running around with 60kWh (presumably in similar size to Leaf pack).
I see leaf styling from the front charge port door to the cuv-style sloping backend. Frankly, I like my leaf. the "frog" look has grown on me, mainly because the hatchback is uber-practical.
If autonews is correct about a prototype testing with a 60kwh battery in the same spaces as the 30kwh one (isn't that the same space as the 24kwh one anyway?!), that'd be AWESOME!!
If autonews is correct about a prototype testing with a 60kwh battery in the same spaces as the 30kwh one (isn't that the same space as the 24kwh one anyway?!), that'd be AWESOME!!
Do you realize that most of these features will make it to the second-gen LEAF, a car going on sale around 2018?
2nd gen Leaf expected 2018: 60kWh NMC battery, 300 mile range, autonomous, CFRP - Daily Kanban
(The prototype shown still shows the current-gen LEAF design, that will of course change).
Since Tesla is most likely late with the Model3 the LEAF 2 will beat it to market - and Nissan can likely ramp up much faster.
The only thing I know for sure about that concept car is that the production version, if there is one, will look almost nothing like it.
Why is it that concept cars generally look pretty cool and the subsequent production car looks like ass?
Ass is cheaper, more practical and usually less divisive in the market than pretty cool.
I bet even the concept Sentra looked pretty cool.
On the inside, it won't.
But, I'd not bet on the outside. Look at the new Maxima, lots of similarities.
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Nissan's IDS is very much a challenge to Toyota and Honda's vision of the future. Compare the size and simplicity of Nissan 60kWh battery compared to Toyota's Mirai drivetrain from tank, battery and fuel cell.
background viewing The Future of Motoring - Nissan - Andy Palmer - YouTube Andy Palmer 2014
Nissan's IDS is very much a challenge to Toyota and Honda's vision of the future. Compare the size and simplicity of Nissan 60kWh battery compared to Toyota's Mirai drivetrain from tank, battery and fuel cell.
background viewing The Future of Motoring - Nissan - Andy Palmer - YouTube Andy Palmer 2014
anticitizen13.7
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If Nissan still has to go through product engineering and manufacturing engineering phases, this car is still at least 3 years out. Still, this looks very promising. It's infinitely better looking than the ugly i3 or bland Bolt.
It will be a true clash of the Titans in Japan. My guess is that Toyota is going to take the most damage, because the company seems to have invested little in its own battery technology. Meanwhile it is going full steam ahead with the hydrogen Mirai. Honda is hedging its bets. Although Honda's FCV program is almost 20 years old at this point and has a new Clarity FCV sedan ready for production in limited numbers, I'm getting the sense that the company does think that battery electrics will play a role in its lineup. Honda recently demonstrated an 4-motor AWD battery electric sports car based on the CR-Z. It is said to be much more fun to drive than even the new NSX hybrid. Where Honda is concerned, I suspect that an internal civil war could be brewing between proponents of different powertrains.
It will be a true clash of the Titans in Japan. My guess is that Toyota is going to take the most damage, because the company seems to have invested little in its own battery technology. Meanwhile it is going full steam ahead with the hydrogen Mirai. Honda is hedging its bets. Although Honda's FCV program is almost 20 years old at this point and has a new Clarity FCV sedan ready for production in limited numbers, I'm getting the sense that the company does think that battery electrics will play a role in its lineup. Honda recently demonstrated an 4-motor AWD battery electric sports car based on the CR-Z. It is said to be much more fun to drive than even the new NSX hybrid. Where Honda is concerned, I suspect that an internal civil war could be brewing between proponents of different powertrains.
At Toyota the father of the prius (Takeshi Uchiyamada) has ascended to be chairman. Its personal for him that Hydrogen is the future, not electricity, Ironically that means that the success of Toyota's Prius and hybrids is interpreted by Toyota to mean that Hydrogen and not Electricity is the future of vehicles. for eg Toyota Launches New EV, But Doesn’t Really Mean It. A Report From Green Hell - The Truth About Cars
Just a quick comparison of patents opened to the public between Toyota vs Tesla indicates the massive investments (both time and money) that Toyota has sunk in Hydrogen. - by contrast Nissan seems to treat hydrogen and battery as 2 sides of the same coin. Reality is, electricity scales, hydrogen fuel cells does not, so Renault Nissan continues to pursue electric vehicles with vigor. just a list of EV making factories from Renault Nissan is long. (at least 3 factories for Renault EVs and 4 factories for Nissan EVs)
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Chickenlittle
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Nissan needs to do something. Had leaf that was totalled and replaced with gen 2. Keeping eye on prices and here in northern Virginia, dealorships discounting new 2016 leafs by more than 6000. Volts are discounted by 2000. Plenty of stock On lots too. Minimally Upgrading battery on most expensive trim doesn't do much. They are loosing market share
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