TPMS display in V7.0 with older sensors?

Father Bill · Oct 15, 2015

Hi All, sorry if this has been addressed in another thread, I did a search and nothing seemed to be here. I have an MS from early 2014 with the older style TPMS sensors (Baolong I think). I just read a thread over at the Tesla Motors forum that stated that the older TPMS sensors will not register on the new display widget in V7.0.

If anyone with a car prior to 55XXX(the new sensors supposedly came out after 55XXX) and has had the update could please let me know if the pressures do register or not, I would appreciate it. This is something that I have really been looking forward to. I can get a third party solution but the car should be able to recognize and report the pressure regardless if the sensor is the older style or the newer one.

Peace,

Father Bill

jpet · Oct 15, 2015

Just asked someone with V7 installed on a 2013 Model S and it doesn't work with the older style sensors.

Father Bill · Oct 15, 2015

Yeah, that was the info I got at the Tesla Forum and the V7.0 for Classic MS thread here. I just ordered a third party TPMS from Amazon. Seems strange they couldn't work a solution for the old and new sensors. Thanks for the confirmation.

Peace,

Father Bill

artsci · Oct 15, 2015

jpet said:
Just asked someone with V7 installed on a 2013 Model S and it doesn't work with the older style sensors.

I've had V7 for about a week now on my 2013 and I can't see the tire pressure readings. I'm going to contact my SC to determine if it will work with the new TPMS sensors installed on my wheels.

Cyclone · Oct 15, 2015

artsci said:
I've had V7 for about a week now on my 2013

Shhh. We aren't supposed to know this!

artsci · Oct 16, 2015

Cyclone said:
Shhh. We aren't supposed to know this!

Just one of the first to get it. Remember I have a 2013 P85 so I don't qualify for all of the new bells and whistles.

matbl · Oct 16, 2015

I think the thing is not with the sensors itself but with the sensor receiver.

MacLeodMX · Oct 16, 2015

2013 P85 here. I don't even get the tire pressure app as an option on the dash

smsprague · Oct 16, 2015

2014 S85 - June delivery- nada

cgiGuy · Oct 16, 2015

2013 60 - Nothing.

ecarfan · Oct 16, 2015

My S is 27180 and with V7 installed did not get the new car status app showing the tire pressures.

artsci · Oct 16, 2015

According to my SC it is possible to upgrade but it will cost about $1,000. Need not only new TPMS sensors but a harness, ECU, and some other hardware. Par for the course of late, Corporate won't permit it. Why is anybody's guess, but Corporate these days is way too tightly wrapped IMHO.

Father Bill · Oct 16, 2015

Hi all, I talked with my SC and they said they are working on a retrofit that will give the TPMS dash widget info. They are working now with engineering to verify that the retrofit will work. The catch, $1000 for parts and installation. The service adviser stated there were 8 parts that need to be replaced. I told him that I was very interested, in fact I told him to go ahead and order the parts they needed. They really want to verify that it will work like we want it to before I spend any money. I will report back here as I have more information.

Peace,
Father Bill

artsci · Oct 16, 2015

Father Bill said:
Hi all, I talked with my SC and they said they are working on a retrofit that will give the TPMS dash widget info. They are working now with engineering to verify that the retrofit will work. The catch, $1000 for parts and installation. The service adviser stated there were 8 parts that need to be replaced. I told him that I was very interested, in fact I told him to go ahead and order the parts they needed. They really want to verify that it will work like we want it to before I spend any money. I will report back here as I have more information.

Peace,
Father Bill

The Service Bulletin from Corporate on this forbids SC's do to this except in cases of a system failure.

There are maybe 20,000 owners who’d pay to have this. At say $500 a pop that’s potential for $10 million in revenue on a very high margin product. It’s like turning their back on an profit making opportunity. I don’t get it. Tesla's management appears to have the worst understanding of the aftermarket business of any company I've ever seen. They don't seem to understand that it's a huge profit center. I alone have probably spent 10K on aftermarket stuff, very little of it with Tesla. I know many others who have spent that much or more.

Who makes these decisions? Hope it's not Elon.

pdx4s · Oct 16, 2015

just got confirmation from SC, older models requires both new sensors type and electronic hardware (receiver is different), based on that I just gave the go signal to Discount Tier to install a new set of 4 tires using the current sensors, I would have bought the tires from TM if that would have included an upgrade option.

JPP · Oct 16, 2015

Another data point--my 2013 S85 does not display TPMS (see build date & VIN below). Glad I have FOBO Plus....

yobigd20 · Oct 16, 2015

feb 2013, no TPMS readings...i never expected there to be. we dont have the right TPMS hardware.

markb1 · Oct 16, 2015

I understand that new hardware is needed to tell which sensor is where, but can't the old hardware read each sensor individually? Would it be possible for Tesla to make a software solution, which would allow us to manually associate each sensor with a corner of the car?

SW2Fiddler · Oct 16, 2015

markb1 said:
I understand that new hardware is needed to tell which sensor is where, but can't the old hardware read each sensor individually? Would it be possible for Tesla to make a software solution, which would allow us to manually associate each sensor with a corner of the car?

That's what I was just thinking in the car a few minutes ago. If the sensors just each had a unique ID.
It could be set up in SW with a calibration "bump" that you would park on one tire at a time. Whichever one jumped UP in pressure is the one on the bump. Save (rename it) and put another tire on the Bump.

markb1 · Oct 16, 2015

SW2Fiddler said:
That's what I was just thinking in the car a few minutes ago. If the sensors just each had a unique ID.
It could be set up in SW with a calibration "bump" that you would park on one tire at a time. Whichever one jumped UP in pressure is the one on the bump. Save (rename it) and put another tire on the Bump.

I'm sure the sensors each have a unique ID. That's why there's a reset procedure when you change the sensors.

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