Charging in Coffs Harbour

raynewman · Oct 11, 2015

Charged today at Coffs Harbour showground. Need to ring ahead on 02 6652 8401 to "book" as all the power outlets are locked to control the Grey Nomads.
Used the Tesla UMC with the three phase adaptor.

Zoltrix77 · Oct 12, 2015

Is that the Australian UMC with the European pigtail? Did Tesla Australia supply it? or did you order it from Europe?

raynewman · Oct 12, 2015

Zoltrix77 said:
Is that the Australian UMC with the European pigtail? Did Tesla Australia supply it? or did you order it from Europe?

From Tesla Sydney @ $130 + shipping. I did the adaptor.

Dborn · Oct 12, 2015

That is a 5 pin Aussie plug, yes?

raynewman · Oct 12, 2015

Dborn said:
That is a 5 pin Aussie plug, yes?

Yes. You Need a different plug/adaptor for each amperage you expect to use. I have 20 and 32. Neither fit a 50 AMP socket.

Dborn · Oct 12, 2015

Ray, given the different sizing for the different power ratings, what size plug did you choose and how are you coping with the different supplies - that is 20. 32, and 50 amp?

raynewman · Oct 12, 2015

Dborn said:
Ray, given the different sizing for the different power ratings, what size plug did you choose and how are you coping with the different supplies - that is 20. 32, and 50 amp?

I've got a 20 and a 32. They seem to be the most common sizes.

Dborn · Oct 12, 2015

So two separate pigtails?or a converter from 32 to 20?

raynewman · Oct 12, 2015

Dborn said:
So two separate pigtails?or a converter from 32 to 20?

Two separate tails (I think it's cheaper that way).

Zoltrix77 · Oct 13, 2015

raynewman said:
Yes. You Need a different plug/adaptor for each amperage you expect to use. I have 20 and 32. Neither fit a 50 AMP socket.

Thats strange, a 32A 3ph plug should fit in a 40A or 50A socket, the 32, 40 and 50 all have the same pin size, there is just a key way that prevents a higher amperage plug going into a lower amperage socket. Obviously, all sockets must have the 5th neutral pin for the UMc to work, so 4 pin sockets are no good.

See this Clipsal catalogue, page 15.

http://updates.clipsal.com/ClipsalOnline/Files/Brochures/I0000112.pdf

Tesla should be selling the pigtail with the 20A Aussie plug rather than the Euro plug, and offering a 32A adaptor.

Are they selling any 15A or higher 1 ph pigtails yet?

Adam.

Dylanpete · Nov 2, 2015

Ray, thanks for this thread and contact for the Showgrounds in Coffs Harbour. I may pass there for a charge on my next trip to Canberra.
Here are a few more contacts for those wanting to drive Brisbane - Sydney

City	Company	Address	Contact	Mobile phone	Landline	Specs
Burleigh Heads	Jax Tyres	1/44 Kortum Drive	Bernie	0409367267	0755204222	3 ph 20A
Woolgoolga	Coffs Harbour Auto Electrical	7 Willis Road	Greg	0412666658	0266541756	3 ph 32A
Woolgoolga	North Coast Heavy Towing	2 Willis Rd	Scott	0447658697	1300 65 8697	3 ph 20A
Coffs Harbour	Charter Freightlines & Cold Storage PTY LTD	15 Wingara Drive			(02) 6652 1891	3 ph 15A
Nambucca Heads	Marcel Towers Apartments	12-14 Wellington Drive			(02) 6568 7041	1 ph 10A
Port Macquarie	Harelec Solar	4/9 Blackbutt Road	Jamie Harrison	0407256477	(02) 6581 1201	3 ph 32A

Dborn · Nov 2, 2015

Zoltrix77 said:
Thats strange, a 32A 3ph plug should fit in a 40A or 50A socket, the 32, 40 and 50 all have the same pin size, there is just a key way that prevents a higher amperage plug going into a lower amperage socket. Obviously, all sockets must have the 5th neutral pin for the UMc to work, so 4 pin sockets are no good.

See this Clipsal catalogue, page 15.

http://updates.clipsal.com/ClipsalOnline/Files/Brochures/I0000112.pdf

Tesla should be selling the pigtail with the 20A Aussie plug rather than the Euro plug, and offering a 32A adaptor.

Are they selling any 15A or higher 1 ph pigtails yet?

Adam.

no higher capacity single phase pigtails yet. I asked only about a week or so ago. I also asked whether a 3 phase adaptor could be wired single phase ( as has been done for my boat ), but was told no.

raynewman · Nov 2, 2015

Dborn said:
no higher capacity single phase pigtails yet. I asked only about a week or so ago. I also asked whether a 3 phase adaptor could be wired single phase ( as has been done for my boat ), but was told no.

At the risk of being thumped; from http://www.teslamotors.com/en_EU/models-charging#/basics the following diagram. If one can take the third entry and adapt as I did, what about the other entries?

Dborn · Nov 3, 2015

Yes. Unfortunately Jesse tells me there is no ETA on the single phase options. That is exactly what I wanted.

raynewman · Nov 3, 2015

Dborn said:
Yes. Unfortunately Jesse tells me there is no ETA on the single phase options. That is exactly what I wanted.

If you want the real story on charging, speak to Mitchell (he's the expert).
If you are an electrical wiz, you could get either option 1 or 2 from the table above and build an adaptor.

Dborn · Nov 3, 2015

That is what I want. Yes, indeed, I am quite capable of building the adaptor. Any idea how I can order those parts given that Jesse claims he has no ETA on them here? I could try and order direct from the European web site but I am not sure how to get in to do so.

Dborn · Nov 3, 2015

raynewman said:
If you want the real story on charging, speak to Mitchell (he's the expert).
If you are an electrical wiz, you could get either option 1 or 2 from the table above and build an adaptor.

by the way, assuming I can get the adaptor, where did you get the socket to suit? I know yours was 3 phase, but you still needed the 3 phase European socket. Did Tesla supply it?

raynewman · Nov 3, 2015

Dborn said:
by the way, assuming I can get the adaptor, where did you get the socket to suit? I know yours was 3 phase, but you still needed the 3 phase European socket. Did Tesla supply it?

Yes, it is the European one, I got the adaptor from Tesla Sydney for $130. Talk to Mitchell.
I got the socket from http://www.uniquip.net.au/ Marc tells me the following have them too.

http://powercordsandmore.com.au/categories.php?category=IEC-60309-connectors/power-cords

http://www.connector-techals.com.au/products/connectors-plugs-sockets/abl-sursum-ceeform-connectors

Dborn · Nov 3, 2015

Thank you. Am in contact with Mitchell. He is working out of the USA at present, but he is replying so am continuing my investigations.

raynewman · Nov 9, 2015

Further to charging at Coffs, I have now confirmed (visual inspection) that North Coast Holiday Parks 123 Pacific Highway Coffs Harbour have available 32 AMP three phase power that they will provide with an overnight stay in one of their cabins (from $97 per night for two). Phone 02 6652 1694. They are in the end of the showground.

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