creeping is also a security feature. if you stop, you have to hold the car by pressing the brake. you still know, the system is still on and ready to move.
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We don't need no stinking creep, drop it.
Nothing creepy about the creep, keep it.
creeping is also a security feature. if you stop, you have to hold the car by pressing the brake. you still know, the system is still on and ready to move.
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Stick shift ICE cars don't creep. I've never heard they were less "secure" than automatic transmission cars.
Yeah, but a significant difference is that they either aren't in gear or the clutch pedal is depressed. The Roadster is in gear.Originally Posted by toutizes
It is so choice. If you have the means, I highly recommend picking one up.
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Brilliant comparison. Make it like the Segway.
The world loves to be deceived.
How many times have events like this happened to you?
The car is stopped, but the engine is on. You decide to look for something that may have rolled under the seat, and your foot accidentally hits the torque pedal. Because of creep, the car would be in park, so the car won't move. If the car had no creep, but was left in gear, the car would lurch forward and could hit something (pedestrian, another car, your garage door, the living room wall, etc...)
On the other hand, I was in my ICE once, and I took my eyes off the stop light for a second to get something off the floor. Suddenly I heard all kinds of honking. When I looked up, I found myself rolling towards the car in front of me. Luckily, I braked before I hit. I didn't even feel the gentle forward motion. Apparently, I didn't feel my foot take pressure off the brake.
So basically, I just made safety arguments for both sides. (or an incompetence argument for me)
IMO, it's not really for safety, but just preference.
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Interesting that the poll results are about the opposite of what I would have predicted. My EV doesn't have creep and I don't miss it at all, and I live in an area with a lot of hills. Of course I've driven a lot of manual transmissions in my life as well as autos so I don't take creep for granted. Poll results suggest that auto makers using creep may actually be giving people what they want, maybe because, as I pointed out in another thread about strong regen, people don't like change.
Then bury it on/off deep in a menu somewhere.
The world loves to be deceived.
There's an aftermarket business waiting to be started, hacking EV control software to allow customization. May void your warranty.
Does 'creep' hurt efficiency? In other words, if you are stopped with foot on the brake, is the vehicle applying some current to the motor to keep it pushing against the gearbox? It feels like it is because as you ease off of the brake pedal it starts rolling forward without hesitation. It would probably help save a little battery power if the battery was only willing to accept power (from regen) and not give out any power (for creep) if the accelerator pedal is not being pushed at all.
No. Control is clever enough that it listens to micro-switch on the brake pedal - power is only applied when you step of.
Same story as when you jump on the brake pedal without stepping of the accelerator - power is instantly cut off.
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