Page 3 of 21 FirstFirst 123456713 ... LastLast
Results 21 to 30 of 203

Thread: Conversion Tesla Adapter to Mennekes socket

  1. #21
    Senior Member dpeilow's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2008
    Location
    Winchester, UK
    Posts
    7,663
    Nice, the 32A versions sounds very useful - but breaks the IEC standards. Get one while you can...


    But RWE got those cables from somewhere. Probably as part of the deal when they bought the cars. I don't know why Tesla just can't sell it. Sure they'd need to be CE rated and all that, but the market that wants them is a few hundred people now easily.

  2. #22
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jul 2010
    Location
    Bradford on Avon, UK
    Posts
    1,761
    Quote Originally Posted by dpeilow View Post
    I don't know why Tesla just can't sell it. Sure they'd need to be CE rated and all that, but the market that wants them is a few hundred people now easily.
    or even make the parts available so a third party can undertake the approvals process... this is a high value niche market so while of little interest to Tesla would be of value to a mom and pop shop...

  3. #23
    #421 Model S #S32 Eberhard's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2010
    Location
    Germany
    Posts
    1,128
    as i understand, that mennekes is compatibel to MOD 2 protocol. There is a wide range of adapters from Tesla available for different american sockets. Here, they only have to take the signal from the mennekes socket. Am i right?
    Roadster EU#421 156.000km MS Sig P85+ 68.000km

  4. #24
    Senior Member dpeilow's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2008
    Location
    Winchester, UK
    Posts
    7,663
    Well, true. But they CE approved the UMC so I don't see this as any different in terms of volumes.

    Maybe we could set up a group buy for the Mennekes to 60309 adapters?

  5. #25
    Model S R231 EU widodh's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2011
    Location
    Middelburg, The Netherlands
    Posts
    3,573
    Quote Originally Posted by Eberhard View Post
    Thats want I want do have too. What is the price for the adapter?
    Both come with a 4M cable, the price:

    - 16A: EUR 244,00 ( 36005: Mennekes 4meter laadkabel 20A 1-fase mode 3 (L1,N,RA,CP,PP) EV-laadstekker (Type 2) - open eind )
    - 32A: EUR 335,00 ( 36008: Mennekes 4meter laadkabel 32A 3-fase mode 3 (L1,L2,L3,N,RA,CP,PP) EV-laadstekker (Type 2) - open eind )

    The 16A cable is actually a 20A cable, but the resistor limits it to 16A. At the end there is no connector, so you can place any CEE connector on it what you like.

    The Mennekes connector is also not freely available, they don't want people hobby'ing around with large currents.

    They (EV-Box) told me that they were planning to cut open a Mobile connector from Tesla and wire the mennekes directly to the Tesla connector. If that works, you could buy an extra Mobile connector and do some soldering
    Last edited by widodh; 2011-03-18 at 06:08 AM.

  6. #26
    Senior Member dpeilow's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2008
    Location
    Winchester, UK
    Posts
    7,663
    So as not to drag this off topic, I've started a group buy thread here.

  7. #27
    Model SP10/XP9 EU ZOE#47 EV_de's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Location
    Germany, IN
    Posts
    415
    FYI - if you mount a CEE red/blue on the other end of the Menneks Plug, there is no "communication" with the car !

    without the "PP" PlugPresent Signal the Menneks Station does't Power on ! ... if you "bridge" the PP - Signal , Menneks will
    provide max. 16 A (in Europe) even with an 32A Cabel ... cause Mode 3 communication is missing .....

  8. #28
    Model S R231 EU widodh's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2011
    Location
    Middelburg, The Netherlands
    Posts
    3,573
    Quote Originally Posted by EV_de View Post
    FYI - if you mount a CEE red/blue on the other end of the Menneks Plug, there is no "communication" with the car !

    without the "PP" PlugPresent Signal the Menneks Station does't Power on ! ... if you "bridge" the PP - Signal , Menneks will
    provide max. 16 A (in Europe) even with an 32A Cabel ... cause Mode 3 communication is missing .....
    They told me there is a resistor in the 32A cable which fakes the signal to the station, so it provides 32A.

  9. #29
    Model SP10/XP9 EU ZOE#47 EV_de's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Location
    Germany, IN
    Posts
    415
    no, the resistor "tells" the Station only that the cable you pluged in can handle max. up to 16A / 32A / 63A aso...

  10. #30
    Senior Member dpeilow's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2008
    Location
    Winchester, UK
    Posts
    7,663
    ^ what he said.

    But also a second resistor (and a diode) is the car present / start charging signal, so that fakes the presence of a 'car' to the EVSE. It then starts supplying current up to the limit of that station. The resistor value also tells the EVSE whether ventilation is required.

    Normally, an oscillator in the EVSE signals the maximum current the car can take from it. The car would then adjust itself to take that amount only. In this case that oscillator will be ignored if there is a CEE socket on the other end of the lead. However, Tesla's UMC will generate another copy of that oscillating signal and send it into the car. The UMC generates a signal that is appropriate for the pigtail on it. In this case, of course, it will be a 32A pigtail.

    So this should work - but it's up to the user to know not to overload the EVSE.

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Similar Threads

  1. Tesla/J1772 adapter available from Tesla's website
    By dsm363 in forum Charging Standards and Infrastructure
    Replies: 222
    Last Post: 2012-09-07, 11:55 AM
  2. Tesla J-1772 Adapter for sale [sold]
    By JoshG in forum Tesla Parts for Sale
    Replies: 1
    Last Post: 2012-07-01, 02:08 PM
  3. Replies: 15
    Last Post: 2011-08-03, 05:00 AM
  4. Replies: 20
    Last Post: 2011-06-28, 02:04 PM
  5. Tesla J1772 Adapter Cable
    By scottfe in forum Roadster
    Replies: 3
    Last Post: 2011-03-15, 03:30 PM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •