Charging a Tesla in Switzerland

[Mitrovic]

So far, I have used 4 different charging stations in Switzerland. Here are my thoughts. I would love to hear from other Tesla "users" about their experience:

You can look up the exact location at LEMnet - Internationales Verzeichnis der Stromtankstellen

On the highway A1 Deitingen direction Zürich:
Park And Charge. Two places. 16 A. But I'm wondering whar are you doing with just 10 Aon the highway?

On the highway A1 Grauholz both direction.
4 places, up to 30 A. Free. Nice. A nice restaurant ( for a highway stop )



In Bern, next to the Waisenhausplatz. Park and Charge. Two places 16 A. Nice. All the shops and restaurants around! ( Best place to park if you are visiting Bern )

In Murten Park and Charge. One place. 16 A. Jsut at the gate of the medieval town of Murten!

[Eberhard]

If you are in Zürich and you don't want to charge at the Tesla Store, you will find an HPC with 64A and several 32A CEE-socket at the Grand Dolder parking-house at the upmost level.

[suxxer]

Spotted a RWE Charging Pole with Mennekes right next to Rinspeed Headquater in Zumikon.

http://www.rwe.com/web/cms/de/250036.../?pmid=4005889

[Bill25cycle]

Hi, As an American Pre-Owner, I'm hopeful not to have the problem charging that Europeans have, as 40 amperes @ 240 volts is commonly available in American Homes. I understand Volkswagen has decided on a 3-phase standard, so am I correct in assuming that anything but the smallest home in Europe has a 240Y/416 volt 50 hz 3-phase electric service? In America, only the very largest mansions have anything more than a 240 volt single phase service, with 100 amperes being the minimum for new construction, up to 200 amperes for average sized electrically heated homes, and 300 or 400 amperes for the very largest electricaly heated homes, but again, almost always single phase service.


Could any of our European friends clue me in as to what is 'standard' in Europe? I understand branch lighting circuits are either 6 or 10 amperes, and appliance circuits are either 10 or 16 amperes (always @ 240 volts 50 hz). Thank you so much.

Bill

[Eberhard]

an normal house in Germany has 400V/64A at 3-phase, can be upgraded with no problems to 128A. That's 44kW or 88kW power. If you have a heat pump etc. you will have an additional circuit with own fuses etc. Our electric stove with oven has a 400V/16A 3-phase direct connection (no plug/socket). I have already an 20 year old socket with 400V/32A in my garage. Unfortunately i can only charge on one phase, thats means instead of 22kW I can only charge with 7kW. Our standard household socket comes with 230V/16A single phase and is available everywhere in Germany. Even this is enough with 3,5kW if you charge overnight and not having the battery completely depleted before.

[suxxer]

In Europe we have 240V 50Hz (see image).



As we have 3-Phase grids (I can speak for Switzerland), every House also has 380/400V 3-Phase access (for stoves, cooking plates...). This because one is not allowed to pull more than 3500W one phase (which means 16A@240V). If you want to use Units with more than 3500W (stoves etc.), you have to use 3-Phase wirings (to avoid the so-called "Schieflast").Standard breakers are mostly 10A or 13A (2400W - 3200W).

ps. The term 3-Phase right, but not complete. If you look at the plugs we have 5 pins. That's 3 phases (L1,L2,L3), one Neutral and one Ground. Neutral is "equalising current".

[Kevin Sharpe]

In the UK (assuming that's part of Europe) we have limited amounts of 3-Phase deployment at homes and small business. Most properties have 230V 80A or 100A single phase supplies from the grid.

[dpeilow]

^ but getting 3-phase is pretty easy as it's in virtually every street. My apartment block has 3 phase, with each apartment connected to one of them - but it would be trivial to connect an outdoor charge point to all three. Electrically heated homes here will have 3 phase.

[emq]

What is the minimum Charging current you can ajust if you have only 6A, 8A or 10A 230V

[suxxer]

The minimum current is 10A.

Swiss Roadsters charge at 10A if the pilot signal is absent (normally the default value set in the firmware is 16A if no pilot is present, but they had to adjust it for Switzerland).