Even this Volt owner knows...

I wonder if that means "don't coal-roll me" - very intriguing though - almost a twisted insight - I like it (oddly, wonder if it ICE drivers think)

scaesare said:

... that he's not driving an EV:

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(seen on my commute to work this morning. All intended in good fun...)

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Your comments make no sense. Everyone I talk to about BEVs or driving a Volt on the battery alone bring up coal produced electricity. And they think the Tesla being all electric can only run on coal.

You can tell 'em that the thousands in Phoenix are all nuclear powered

They're from a coal-producing area and are happy to be powered by coal.

The first Volt I saw was on a snowy day in my (small) city, the car was, I think, from PA, and had a sticker on the rear that said "Powered By Coal".

As scottf says, your comment makes no sense. If anything they _are_ identifying with it being an EV. But please, let's not start _that_ debate again.

PWN'd is 1337 speak for 'player owned', a term that spawned from a developer bug in Warcraft that basically describes beating the crap out of someone.

in reference to the photo above, it's meant to describe beating the coal industry.

yobigd20 said:

PWN'd is 1337 speak for 'player owned', a term that spawned from a developer bug in Warcraft that basically describes beating the crap out of someone.

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Yes, and no. The plate reads, "COAL PWD" - coal powered.

1337 short-hand would've been, "COAL PWN"

I almost got a similar plate here in Utah for my Volt. My power is over 80% produced by coal so it would be relevant for my car.

Ended up with IxR for Amps * Ohms = Volt.

Since electric cars are so efficient (as are large coal power plants presumably) I'd be curious to know just how much coal is needed to propel a Volt or a Model S... eg. x miles per lump of coal :tongue:

Lex said:

Since electric cars are so efficient (as are large coal power plants presumably) I'd be curious to know just how much coal is needed to propel a Volt or a Model S... eg. x miles per lump of coal :tongue:

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I actually did this calculation last year: ... How Much Was Consumed? - fan of the underdog | Seeking Alpha

Essentially: 2000 lbs of coal = 2460 KWh = 7257 (assuming 2.95 miles/kwh) ... ~3.6285 miles per pound of coal.

Oil4AsphaultOnly said:

I actually did this calculation last year: ... How Much Was Consumed? - fan of the underdog | Seeking Alpha

Essentially: 2000 lbs of coal = 2460 KWh = 7257 (assuming 2.95 miles/kwh) ... ~3.6285 miles per pound of coal.

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That's funny that we were posting at the same time. Using my numbers (5,500 miles/2,000 lbs), I get 2.75 miles per pound of coal, which is about 25% fewer miles than your calculation. Did you happen to take into account transmission and charger losses? I calculated about 10% for each, I think.

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That's funny that we were posting at the same time. Using my numbers (5,500 miles/2,000 lbs), I get 2.75 miles per pound of coal, which is about 25% fewer miles than your calculation. Did you happen to take into account transmission and charger losses? I calculated about 10% for each, I think.

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Nope, didn't factor in either losses, because they're dependent on distance to the power plant and the 2.95 miles/kwh was fairly pessimistic anyway (even more so for the volt. With our two numbers, Lex has a range band that (s)he can play with.

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Hehe, mine:

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Nice! I love nerdy plates. I had one on each one of my BMWs that had the body code and engine code. Still thinking of a good idea for the Model 3 when I get it.