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Not clear to me from the live blogs whether the P85D actually get's an upgrade to ludicrous mode, or if the updates discussed are relegated to new cars only...
What happened to the boldfaced portion of this footnote to Tesla's P85D specs that was removed from Tesla's web site not that long ago?
"The P85D top speed is currently electronically-limited to 130 mph. In the coming months, we will be able to upgrade the car free of charge to enable a 155 mph top speed. This free update will be available for the lifetime of the car (not limited to the first owner). Additionally, an over-the-air firmware upgrade to the power electronics will improve P85D performance at high speed above what anyone outside Tesla has experienced to date. In other words, the car will be better than you experienced. This free upgrade will be rolled out in the next few months, once full validation is complete."
Today Musk announced a $10,000 Ludicrous Speed update. It wasn't exactly the "over-the-air firmware update" that was promised above. Am I not reading this correctly?
What happened to the boldfaced portion of this footnote to Tesla's P85D specs that was removed from Tesla's web site not that long ago?
"The P85D top speed is currently electronically-limited to 130 mph. In the coming months, we will be able to upgrade the car free of charge to enable a 155 mph top speed. This free update will be available for the lifetime of the car (not limited to the first owner). Additionally, an over-the-air firmware upgrade to the power electronics will improve P85D performance at high speed above what anyone outside Tesla has experienced to date. In other words, the car will be better than you experienced. This free upgrade will be rolled out in the next few months, once full validation is complete."
Today Musk announced a $10,000 Ludicrous Speed update. It wasn't exactly the "over-the-air firmware update" that was promised above. Am I not reading this correctly?
What happened to it? They released it.
The problem with continuous improvements is the continuous whine. And I'm not talking about gears.
I think that the OTA update referred to the improvement in top speed (to 155 mph) that was already rolled out. 0-60 isn't high speed performance, so I wouldn't expect the OTA high speed improvement promise to apply to speeds of zero to sixty.
Reread the italics portion of Amped's post that you quoted.I think that the OTA update referred to the improvement in top speed (to 155 mph) that was already rolled out. 0-60 isn't high speed performance, so I wouldn't expect the OTA high speed improvement promise to apply to speeds of zero to sixty.
When did they release the software that I boldfaced? It seems like today's announcement fits with exactly what I quoted above, except that it's not an OTA update - it's a $10,000 build-to-order option.
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If you read the quote, the top speed update and the boldfaced text are two separate updates. Tesla increased the top speed to 155 MPH. But so far, I don't think they delivered on the 2nd half of the quoted promise. Today's announcement seems to confirm that Tesla ran into some problems with releasing the full 691 HP of the P85D, so they decided to launch a new model to address the issue. My fear is that those who bought the P85D based upon the quoted promise may be a little upset today.
Ok, I see what you're saying. I can't disagree, I misread it. Now I'm wondering as well...I guess the only way to read it is that there are two components to the top speed improvement. First, there's the increase in absolute top speed. Second, there is an improvement in the rate of acceleration at higher speeds. One has been delivered, the other, apparently not.
Please revisit your first sentence. I suspect editorial issue with polarity.Today Tesla said the P85D was power limited up to 30 MPH, and with the today's announcement the P90D will be power limited up to 60 MPH. That indicates a performance improvement at higher speed and sounds exactly like what Tesla promised months ago via OTA update. And today we find out it's actually a $13,000 update. If I bought based upon the promise, above, I might be a little upset.
Early reports indicate $5000 for upgrade for existing P85D owners if done in the next 6 months. I guess that is a slight mea culpa on their part for the miscalculation (although I should note Tesla did match their advertised 0-60 and 1/4 mile specs with the P85D and this upgrade gives more performance beyond that).Today Tesla said the P85D was power limited up to 30 MPH, and with the today's announcement the P90D will be power limited up to 60 MPH. That indicates a performance improvement at higher speed and sounds exactly like what Tesla promised months ago via OTA update. And today we find out it's actually a $13,000 update. If I bought based upon the promise, above, I might be a little upset.
Thanks for that link, stopcrazypp!
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Please revisit your first sentence. I suspect editorial issue with polarity.
In the portion I quoted, your post was missing the word "not" in the first clause re: 30mph.I'm not sure what you're suggesting.
In the portion I quoted, your post was missing the word "not" in the first clause re: 30mph.
OK, how many recent P85D owners are kicking themselves in the butt now, and upgrading to the P90D?
Technically, the motors aren't power limited up to 30/60 mph, but torque limited. Above those speeds they are power limited.Today Tesla said the P85D was power limited up to 30 MPH, and with the today's announcement the P90D will be power limited up to 60 MPH. That indicates a performance improvement at higher speed and sounds exactly like what Tesla promised months ago via OTA update. And today we find out it's actually a $13,000 update. If I bought based upon the promise, above, I might be a little upset.
Ok, thanks.