Deleting inappropriate Supercharger recommendation from route?

PaulR said:

O.K., maybe I missed it.

I have seen discussions of "insane" or "inappropriate" recommendations for Superchargers stops on a routing in order to alleviate "range anxiety". But when it is obvious that particular Supercharger stop is wrong, I need a way to delete it from the navigation route. The only obvious choice the software offers is "removal of all Superchargers" on the route. But I just want to remove one! How do I do that?

My routing seems to assume that I always need to top off at a local Supercharger at the beginning of my trip, when, in fact, I have a HPWC at home and could do so there and skip the first Supercharger recommendation. I guess I could charge to 100% and maybe it would skip that Supercharger recommendation, but it still doesn't answer my question.... how to remove only one from the listing.

Is this a beta software issue, or is this an ESO problem? (Equipment Superior to Operator)

Thanks.......

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AnOutsider said:

"Remove all charging" (or however it's worded) wasn't available?

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FlasherZ said:

I just took my family on a 2,700 mile trip over the past couple of weeks, from the St. Louis area to Orlando and back via superchargers. I had to drive an additional 500+ miles out of the way because of the lack of a supercharger in Paducah, KY, but that's another matter.

There really needs to be a change in the Supercharger routing logic, or perhaps a dialog box that asks before changing the route to another charging stop. On more than one occasion, I left after the car reported that I had enough to make it to the next charger, only to accelerate onto the freeway and have the navigation system try to re-route me *back* to the supercharger where I was just charging (because my Wh/mi increased during acceleration). This happened on my way from St. Louis to Orlando - I left Indianapolis, headed for Lexington, KY, only to have the system keep trying to have me turn around and go back to Indy (prior to Blue Ash opening).

The only way to fix this is to cancel your trip navigation and select the individual supercharger you are headed toward, touch "trips", then "remove all charging stops", which isn't very user friendly.

This would also allow me to skip a supercharger. The car uses a very conservative 20% buffer in planning, and if you can't make it to a supercharger with at least 20%, it will suggest the next one (or return you to the one you just charged at). For example, between Knoxville, TN and Lexington, KY is London, KY. We chose to charge fully while eating in Lexington (going there) and Knoxville (coming back), and skip London in both directions, but the car kept wanting me to stop at London because I was going to go to 15% instead of 20%. Again, the only workaround is to cancel navigation and select the specific charger, then remove all charge stops.

Another suggestion is to allow us to tweak that buffer... I feel very comfortable with using 15% instead of 20%...

Finally, I *really* need a way to tell the Tesla to avoid a route. On our way home, there was a fatality accident between Greenup, IL and Montrose, IL that caused the car to attempt a re-route via US 40 (having me exit in Casey, IL, and travel north on US 40). Unfortunately, when I exited, I found that US 40 was closed east of Casey and I had to turn around. However, the navigation system kept sticking to that route, wanting me to turn around time and time again. I needed a way to tell the system to avoid that road and recalculate.

Thanks for listening to the feedback - if there's a better place for this, let me know. I feel as if I can trust the navigation system a bit more than before (although I still can't believe that over a year later, Navigon still hasn't put the new I-70 bridge over the Mississippi River in its system), but there needs to be massive improvement on the interface. I find myself using Waze along with the Tesla, and many times chosing Waze over the Tesla navigation.

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David99 said:

I use it on long trips to see an overview of my entire route, but then I cancel the navigation and pick the next Supercharger and navigate leg by leg. The system just doesn't work. Always adds unnecessary stops and each time you get out of the car and back in, the navigation is stuck and only shows 'calculating...'. How good is a navigation system that adds charging stops but then locks up each time you do a stop?

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Nevek said:

I use exactly the same method after some frustrating experimenting.

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PaulR said:

Guess I have to keep my iPhone or iPad to use Waze for navigation, and use EVTrip Planner (written by an teenager who has not even entered college yet) to calculate refueling stops. I guess one day Tesla will get it right..... The kid who programmed EVTrip Planner asks for donations toward his college fund, maybe Tesla should buy his program and send a promising, deserving, smart young kid to college - maybe even offer him a job! Thanks for the feedback guys.

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PaulR said:

Guess I have to keep my iPhone or iPad to use Waze for navigation, and use EVTrip Planner (written by an teenager who has not even entered college yet) to calculate refueling stops. I guess one day Tesla will get it right..... The kid who programmed EVTrip Planner asks for donations toward his college fund, maybe Tesla should buy his program and send a promising, deserving, smart young kid to college - maybe even offer him a job! Thanks for the feedback guys. :wink:

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Dutchie said:

Strange, I thought the planner looked at the route and take the current actual charge of the batteries into account. If you are near empty then it will send you to a nearby supercharger first. If you are fully charged skip you can skip the first supercharger. I would have thought that would not be too difficult to programme.

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David99 said:

I use it on long trips to see an overview of my entire route, but then I cancel the navigation and pick the next Supercharger and navigate leg by leg. The system just doesn't work. Always adds unnecessary stops and each time you get out of the car and back in, the navigation is stuck and only shows 'calculating...'. How good is a navigation system that adds charging stops but then locks up each time you do a stop?

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David99 said:

I use it on long trips to see an overview of my entire route, but then I cancel the navigation and pick the next Supercharger and navigate leg by leg. The system just doesn't work. Always adds unnecessary stops and each time you get out of the car and back in, the navigation is stuck and only shows 'calculating...'. How good is a navigation system that adds charging stops but then locks up each time you do a stop?

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